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Old 08-23-24, 10:55 AM   #4426
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Old 08-23-24, 02:40 PM   #4427
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Old 08-23-24, 03:22 PM   #4428
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Mr. Reisner, more than two weeks ago, Ukraine made a surprise advance into the Russian region of Kursk. A daring maneuver - but now the soldiers actually seem to have taken hold. Has the operation been a success?

We should take a look at the goals that Ukraine set itself. In the short term, Ukraine wanted to get out of the negative headlines generated by Russian successes in the Donbass in recent months.

It also wanted to boost the morale of its own population and armed forces. I think we can clearly say that this has been achieved.

What about medium and long-term goals?

That's where it gets more challenging. The medium-term goal is to force the Russians to move forces out of the Donbass and thus stop the momentum that the Russians currently have there. The bad news is that this is not yet apparent.

In response to the Ukrainian advance, Russia has now moved forces from the area north of Kharkiv to the Kursk area as a first reaction force and is still sending additional forces. However, we do not see that there has been a significant transfer of forces from the Donbass to Kursk.

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We would have been able to determine such a transfer because in this case the Russian attacks in eastern Ukraine would have decreased. But that is not the case - on the contrary.
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Old 08-23-24, 03:30 PM   #4429
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They, the Ukrainians seems to have miscalculated the Russian troop movement when they entered Kursk oblast and toke around 1250 square kilometer of Russia.

Nothing is bad, since Ukraine have taken advantage of this troop movement from Kharkiv, by use 3rd assault brigade to engage the Russian in an offensive in that area-They have already taken 2 km of the occupied and destroyed massive of Russian war materials.

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Old 08-23-24, 04:00 PM   #4430
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Okay they did not take the bait. But the overall picture is more complicated. Available information confirms that Russian units are being withdrawn to Kursk from other Ukrainian fronts, but not from the front near Pokrovsk. And media platform Meduza reports that the Kremlin assumes that Ukrainians cannot be driven out of Kursk for the time being and has ordered TV propagandists to portray the occupation of this piece of Russia as ‘the new normal’. Putin is keen on success in the Donbas. But meanwhile, those Ukrainian attacks continue across the border, including in the area west of the captured territory where the bridges over the Sejm have been blown up, and the replacement pontoon bridges reportedly as well. In some places, fierce fighting is reported, indicating that Russian defences are up and running.

In the West, too, the Kursk invasion is now viewed somewhat differently. One can no longer speak of a ‘raid’ but of a counter-offensive, ‘based on the effects the Ukrainians are trying to achieve. It will change the momentum and narrative of the war and disrupt Russian command, transport, oil and gas infrastructure, air base operations and domestic politics'. This ‘counteroffensive’ transcends the Kursk region. Thus, Ukrainian units would also advance along the front in the Kharkiv region, taking advantage of the Russian weakening there due to the movement of units to the Kursk region.

But the real blow being dealt on Russian territory, at the same time as the ground attack in Kursk and barely reported on are the missile and drone attacks on Russian air bases, oil terminals and munitions warehouses deeper into Russia. These have intensified dramatically over the past 10 days, and in doing so, for the first time, thanks to improved Ukrainian drones, appear to include the airbases from which the devastating slide-bomb attacks are launched. These are precisely the targets Kyiv is not allowed to hit with Western weapons by Washington for fear of escalation. The effect Ukraine aims to achieve by doing this is at least threefold: disrupting the Russian war machine and thus complicating the Russian offensive in Donbas, showing Western partners that their restrictions are unnecessary and that they should intensify their aid, and gaining a better starting position for eventual negotiations.

This fight extends over more than a thousand kilometres of frontline, now also touches southern Russia and may also lead to new developments in occupied Crimea, where Ukraine is systematically destroying Russia's anti-aircraft defences, driving back its fleet and cutting logistical ties between Russia and Crimea. This week, a missile strike on the port of Kavkaz destroyed the last operational Russian ferry capable of carrying rail cars to Crimea, including the fully loaded rail cars on it. The outcome of the intense fighting on all these fronts is uncertain, but it seems Ukraine is using all its available resources to free itself from the double scourge of Russian war of attrition and half-hearted Western aid.
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Old 08-23-24, 04:54 PM   #4431
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The Ukrainians is far from beaten in Ukraine, on the contrary



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As Dargo already piunted at, I think the most signficangt relevance of all events has the stepping up of longer range attacks on Russian infrastructure and logstics networks. These sort of attacks indeed have dramatically increased and seem to leave marks on the whole Russian economy and its income as well.


The Kursk offensive and landtaking there I still see as undecided and fragile for a slong as the Russians have not tested it in seruousness and Ukriane showed it could sustain the efforts there. And this is a longterm perspective. The longer Ukraine stays there, the more difficult the logistical situation probably becomes, even more so that it is threatened for the time after the US elections. It is no self-runner that Harris will win, the race is absolutely open.



Lets not forget that all what Ukraine currently does, it can do only due to hanging on the drip of the Western supporters. And that drip is - well... not of a sort to make you feel safe and comfortable.
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Von der Leyen on Independence Day: "Europe will always be on side of Ukraine, because Ukraine is Europe"

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The President of the European Commission Ursula von der Leyen congratulated the citizens of Ukraine on Independence Day.

"Your freedom is our freedom. Your security is our security. We have been with you from day one. And we will continue to do so for as long as it takes. I wish our friends a proud Independence Day. Glory to Ukraine," she said.

"Europe will always be at Ukraine's side, because Ukraine is Europe.

Your freedom is our freedom.
Your security is our security.

We've been standing with you since day one. And we'll continue to do so, for as long as it takes.

I'm wishing our friends a proud Independence Day. pic.twitter.com/scAPsxL8fv

- Ursula von der Leyen (@vonderleyen) 24 August 2024" Source: https://censor.net/en/v3506383
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^ Pah.

von der Leyen... My disgust for this toxic witch has no limits. Underhanded, dishonest, totalitarian, cold as ice. I rather trust petting a black mamba during mating season. 'nuff said.
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If they get targetted and killed, what'S the EU's reaction then? Entering the war, as Ukraine wants to provoke? Okay, then I'm fine with sending advisors and trainers. But if this readiness to enter the war against Russia and make this formally a NATO-Russia war with all unpredictability and risk involved is not given, I am against sending trainers.

You do not pull a tiger's tail if you are not prepared to fight and kill it. And just hoping Russia would not target them, is no strategy, but is negligent.
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Total combat losses of Russian Federation since beginning of war - about 606,490 people (+1,160 per day), 8,542 tanks, 17,349 artillery systems, 16,620 armoured combat vehicles.

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As noted, the total combat losses of the enemy from 24.02.22 to 24.08.24 are approximately:

personnel - about 606,490 (+1,160 people)
tanks - 8542 (+9) units;
armored combat vehicles - 16,620 (+21) units;
artillery systems - 17,349 (+42) units;
MLRS - 1169 (+2) units;
air defense equipment - 1169 (+2) units;
aircraft - 367 (+0) units;
helicopters - 328 (+0) units;
UAVs of operational-tactical level - 14064 (+39);
cruise missiles - 2444 (+2);
ships/boats - 28 (+0) units;
submarines - 1 (+0) units;
automotive equipment and tank trucks – 23,383 (+54) units;
special equipment - 2911 (+1). Source: https://censor.net/en/n3506361
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