Here we go again-Ukraine once again

[Skybird]

Originally Posted by Dargo

Vladimir Putin is not going to stop his war in Ukraine, Putin still wants to do four things:

- Destroy Ukraine
- Tear apart NATO
- Humiliate the West
- Rewrite European security

He hasn't succeeded, but he's still trying.

Not in this life of his.

[Catfish]

just read this in a YT comment:

Russia: “Our Shells shall block the sun”.
Ukraine: “Then we shall fight in the dark…..with night vision javelins and drones.”

Ukraine has a point. And despite the russian advance YT is full of tanks and all kinds of russian hardware blown up in the last three days.
Impossible to know what to believe.

[Dargo]

In Komsomolsk-on-Amur yesterday, a man set fire to the premises of the Russian Guard, Komcity News reports. Since the beginning of the war in Ukraine, 14 military registration and enlistment offices have been set on fire in different regions of Russia. Soldiers of the National Guard participate in the invasion on a par with the military

[Dargo]

Ukraine Frontline situation:

Northern border of Ukraine – continued shelling and aviation strikes by the Russians at the border villages of Sumy and Chernihiv Oblasts with the same objective to prevent Ukraine from transferring away troops.

Kharkiv's direction – minor tactical movements and artillery exchanges, nothing serious happening.

Izyum-Sloviansk and Lyman-Sloviansk directions: the enemy became more active – the group attacking from Lyman is is active, attempting to advance, and got to keen to the point where they destroyed a historical church of the Sviatohirsk Lavra. They will try again to cross Siverskyi Donets to push to Sloviansk. The group attacking from Izyum is getting reinforcements and regrouping. What’s interesting is that they work in turns – one group will do some moves like reconnaissance, then the other. Their objective is the same – to surround Sloviansk and cut off the Bahmut-Sloviansk highway.

Severodonetsk – pessimistic ratio of forces is 70 to 30 in favour of the attacker, optimistic – 50 to 50. Russians are bringing new forces, rumours the fights are back in the city centre.

Today a mass strike with Tochka-U’s was conducted on Ukrainian cities of Bahmut, Kramatorksk, Konstantinovka, Lysychansk. Rockets strikes on Sloviansk and Soledar. Helicopters struck near Lysychansk and Severodonetsk towards south-west. Su-25 hit Ustinkovka. Toretsk, New York, Vrubivka, Pokhorvskoye – strikes with Ka-52 helicopters. Also shelled Kranohorivka, Nikolskoye, Vesyoloye. Kamenska settlement near Huliaipole hit with MRL strikes. This shows two things – a) Russians are stuck due to Ukraine bringing in reserves, these attacks were aimed at striking reserve supply lines, b) Strikes along the frontline shows the enemy admits they cannot complete their objectives – they cannot break through the enemy positions and interrupt reserve supplies.

Additionally, yesterday Odesa was attacked with rocket – most were intercepted but one landed, however with inspection it became apparent that it was one of the mid-range rockets with range of no more than 300 km, which may show Russians have to use older rockets due to a lack of stockpiled long-range rockets. This is dangerous for them as they have to come close to the border of Ukrainian anti-air defence strike range. It may not mean they are running out of rockets, but very likely they start preserving them.

Kherson – Ukrainian forces are holding onto the foothold, Russians are trying to knock them out, artillery exchanges.

... https://wartranslated.com/summary-of...m-4-june-2022/

[mapuc]

I got myself some friends on a livestream on yt and manner have I seen stuff in Kharkiv, Sloviansk and other places.

Right now it's shelling and explosion in and around Sloviansk.

Markus

[Rockstar]

[Catfish]

This is good but a bit old, and who understands german?

edit sorry, was not aware he now also tells the stuff in english now, excellent

[Skybird]

Russian Foreign Minister Sergei Lavrov on Saturday told a Bosnian-Serb television broadcaster that Western sanctions would actually benefit Russia by driving up energy prices.
"Considering the price level that has been established as a result of the West's policies, we have suffered no budgetary losses," he said, adding, "On the contrary, this year we will significantly increase the profits from the export of our energy resources."
In reaction to a European Union agreement that will see roughly 90% of Russian oil imports to the bloc banned by the end of the year, the Moscow hardliner said, "Oil, generally speaking, is not subject to politics, there is a demand for it ... we have alternative sales markets, where we are already increasing sales."

-Deutsche Welle-


If true - and I think he has a point and I mentioned according concerns myself, too - it shows that just "soft power" like politics and economics alone hardly can replace hard power like military muscles.

[Catfish]

On the other hand Lavrov has not said one true word ever.
They are living in their own "reality".

[mapuc]

Danish TV2News wrote:

Russia's top general: Ukraine will attack targets in Russia with weapons from the US

Just as the US is about to send long-range weapons to Ukraine, the Russians say they have intercepted information about an upcoming attack directly against Russia.

When the US decided the other day to send advanced long-range missile systems to Ukraine, the Americans made one condition to the Ukrainians:

Do not send the missiles across the border into Russia.

So far, the US has not publicly set limits on how the Ukrainians can use the American weapons, but on Wednesday US Defence Secretary Anthony Blinken said the Ukrainians had agreed to the Americans' demands.

- The Ukrainians have assured us that they will not use these weapons systems against targets on Russian territory, the secretary said, adding that mutual trust between the US and Ukraine was high.

Now the Russians claim that the Ukrainian regime plans to use the missile systems to attack Russia as soon as they arrive.

These include HIMARS rocket launchers, which can fire multiple guided missiles simultaneously.

The range of the type of rockets the US sends to Ukraine is about 80 kilometres, but the HIMARS system can also fire missiles that can potentially hit targets 300 kilometres away.

And according to the head of Russia's operation in Ukraine, General Mikhail Mizintsev, the Ukrainians have already started planning how they will break the agreement with the Americans.

- According to credible operational information we have obtained as a result of intercepted radio communications, the Kyiv regime is planning another inhuman provocation in the town of Shostka, Mikhail Mizintsev tells the Russian state news agency TASS.

Residential areas targeted
The general claims the "inhuman provocation" involves weapons from the US and Ukraine's security service SBU.

- In the near future, Shostka is expected to receive long-range missiles from the US. With the help of militant groups and Ukraine's armed forces and on the orders of the SBU, it is planned to strike directly at the border area of the Russian Federation from residential areas in the city, says Mikhail Mizintsev.

According to the general, the US weapons make the residential areas of Ukraine legitimate targets.

- With these actions, the neo-Nazi Ukrainians are expected to provoke Russia's armed forces to return fire and then accuse them of indiscriminate attacks against civilian infrastructure and slaughter of Ukraine's civilian population, the general says.

According to Mikhail Mizintsev and the TASS news agency, Ukraine's government plans to use the affair for propaganda.

- There are plans to use Ukrainian and foreign journalists to prepare fake photos and videos about alleged killings of civilians in the city by Russia's military, and it will be distributed widely by Western news agencies, TASS writes.

The allegations
During the first months of the war, Russia has numerous times accused Ukraine and Western media of fabricating photos and videos of alleged Russian war crimes in Ukraine.

On the other hand, US President Joe Biden, British Prime Minister Boris Johnson and Danish Prime Minister Mette Frederiksen have all accused Russia of committing war crimes.

These include the Butja district outside Kiyv, where mass graves and the bodies of civilians bound hand and foot have been found.

Earlier in the conflict, Russia repeatedly blamed Ukraine for things that were not subsequently documented.

For example, the Russians have accused Ukraine of building nuclear weapons at the disastrous Chernobyl power plant, accused Ukraine of committing genocide in the east of the country and said that an American general fought alongside Ukrainians at the Azovstahl steelworks in Mariupol.

The advanced US missile systems that will arrive in Ukraine shortly.

The Moscow regime has reacted to the new US arms shipment, with Vladimir Putin's press spokesman Dmitry Peskov saying, according to TASS, that the US is "throwing gasoline on the fire" and that the Americans are apparently willing to fight Russia to the last Ukrainian soldier.

Russia's foreign minister, Sergei Lavrov, went a step further, accusing Ukraine on Wednesday of taking "provocative steps" that could draw "a third country" into the war.

- Such a risk certainly exists. What the Kiyv regime is demanding from its Western benefactors goes far beyond what is decent and is a provocation aimed at involving the West in military action, Sergei Lavrov said, according to Reuters.

How the Russians will react if there is an attack - or anything like it - deep inside their territory remains to be seen.

Neither Ukraine nor the US has responded to the Russian accusations at the time of writing.

Translated with www.DeepL.com/Translator (free version)

Why do I smell a false flag operation is coming very soon ?

Markus

[Catfish]

^ do you mean the russian false flag operation going on in Donbas since 2014?

If Russia can shoot down an international airliner and get away with it .. just saying.

[mapuc]

Originally Posted by Catfish

^ do you mean the russian false flag operation going on in Donbas since 2014?

If Russia can shoot down an international airliner and get away with it .. just saying.

No Russia will use some of their own rockets and fire against Russia from Ukraine and thereafter saying it was Ukraine who has fired several HIMARS rocket which they got from USA.

I don't think Ukraine would be so dumb and break an agreement which could mean that USA stop sending more weapon to Ukraine.

Markus

[les green01]

no different than russian sending weapons to other countries to use against US but if Ukraine going take their country back they better think about doing it quick a good chance dems going lose congress here good chance they going lose the White House in 24

[Skybird]

Originally Posted by Catfish

On the other hand Lavrov has not said one true word ever.
They are living in their own "reality".

Sure, hew is a notorious liar. But look at the prices for energy. That the raises in prices give them certaion ammounts of compensation for reduced sales to the West, even more so if they can open new deals with other parts of the world, is obvious. And fact is they have signed such deals.

[August]

https://twitter.com/JominiW/status/1...296771/photo/1

/ Ukrainian TVD, Day 89-97. Intense combat has continued in the Donbas over the past 9 days. Russian forces continue to expand on their breakthrough around Popasna & have captured large parts of Severodonetsk. Ukraine counterattacks in Kherson.