UK Politics Thread - Page 293

STEED · 07-11-15, 09:41 AM

Should Labour do...

A. Dump all the unions and have no more to do with them?

B. Dump the backward thinking unions?

C. Try kicking the backward unions up the backside and bring them kicking & screaming into the 21st century?

D. Do nothing to rock the boat?

Jimbuna · 07-11-15, 09:54 AM

D. The unions are the major financial backers to the party....unfortunately.

STEED · 07-11-15, 10:00 AM

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Originally Posted by Jimbuna

D. The unions are the major financial backers to the party....unfortunately.

And there is their problem the unions got Labour by the balls. This is a opportunity for Labour to get its house in order and the unions, 2020 election is a write off so concentrate on the big clean up or they will go the way of the LibDems!

BossMark · 07-11-15, 11:18 AM

It should C but I agree with Jim it will be D.

Jimbuna · 07-12-15, 05:30 AM

I've decided I will vote in the leadership election then give it till the end of the year to see what impact the new leadership has before deciding on my party membership.

I'm not all that hopeful though.

STEED · 07-12-15, 09:02 AM

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Originally Posted by Jimbuna

I've decided I will vote in the leadership election then give it till the end of the year to see what impact the new leadership has before deciding on my party membership.

I'm not all that hopeful though.

Cut your losses now jim as labour is finished, I was was watching a news interview with some miners who are going to lose their jobs due to closer of the mine and they had no faith in Labour any more and looked upon the contesting next leaders as a joke and said none of them don't care.

True to a point as British politics is being Americanized, glossy image is everything and the rest can go to hell. That's why in part Diamond Dave won and Ed did not. I think we could be witnessing the fall of Labour and the LibDems could they be replaced by UKIP and the Greens or something else to come.

STEED · 07-13-15, 09:01 AM

Listening to the radio sounds like those evil Tories are going to hit agency workers removing their holiday pay and sick pay. These Tory slugs will not be happy until they have turned back the clock to the days of the poor work house.

BossMark · 07-13-15, 10:53 AM

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Originally Posted by STEED

Listening to the radio sounds like those evil Tories are going to hit agency workers removing their holiday pay and sick pay. These Tory slugs will not be happy until they have turned back the clock to the days of the poor work house.

And they've got 5 years to do this, but I think it will take them less

Jimbuna · 07-13-15, 02:54 PM

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Originally Posted by STEED

Cut your losses now jim as labour is finished, I was was watching a news interview with some miners who are going to lose their jobs due to closer of the mine and they had no faith in Labour any more and looked upon the contesting next leaders as a joke and said none of them don't care.

True to a point as British politics is being Americanized, glossy image is everything and the rest can go to hell. That's why in part Diamond Dave won and Ed did not. I think we could be witnessing the fall of Labour and the LibDems could they be replaced by UKIP and the Greens or something else to come.

Should that come about and bearing in mind I'm only eight years from state pension age....I may become a Tory and reap the triple-lock pension benefits

STEED · 07-14-15, 12:27 PM

Can you guys hear a crazy man shouting out...Dam you Bitch and Dam you SNP?

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Fox-hunting: SNP forces Cameron to delay planned Commons vote

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-33520547

Is this the start of the SNP getting under Diamond Dave's skin?

STEED · 07-14-15, 12:42 PM

Let cheer up Cameron and send him this..

http://www.amazon.co.uk/Books-by-the...&keywords=UKIP

Moonlight · 07-14-15, 05:17 PM

Sturgeon has scuppered the Tory plans for now but it would have been much better if she had kept her mouth shut until the fox hunting debate and vote had actually begun.

Cameron will introduce it again when the EVEL debate is done up like a kipper so it gets the chance of becoming law, he might also decide his MP's need whipping into line as well to try and force it through parliament that way.

Cameron is as sly as a fox and as slippery as an eel, this isn't over by a long way yet.

Oberon · 07-14-15, 08:44 PM

Sadly I think you're right Moonlight, Cameron has to dance to the tune his masters play him. Still, it was briefly nice to see his plans derailed slightly, even if it was only temporarily.

Speaking of Sturgeon, I see Mhairi Black stood up in the commons and smashed it out of the park. Hopefully the lass will go far, providing Westminster doesn't taint her.

BossMark · 07-15-15, 02:27 AM

Trades Union Bill: Ministers unveil strike law reforms

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-33529248

Here ago again Tories back in power and wanting to stop workers rights....

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There would also be a minimum 50% turnout for strike ballots to be valid

Didn't the Tories only get in with 37% of the vote???, with 63% telling them to piss off....

Jimbuna · 07-15-15, 08:39 AM

The fox hunting issue has simply brought the EVEL debate forward which is precisely what Sturgeon wants....a step closer to independance.

Cameron has been out manoeuvred.

07-11-15, 09:41 AM	#4381
STEED Lucky Jack Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Down Town UK Posts: 27,695 Downloads: 89 Uploads: 48	Should Labour do... A. Dump all the unions and have no more to do with them? B. Dump the backward thinking unions? C. Try kicking the backward unions up the backside and bring them kicking & screaming into the 21st century? D. Do nothing to rock the boat? __________________ Dr Who rest in peace 1963-2017. To borrow Davros saying...I NAME YOU CHIBNALL THE DESTROYER OF DR WHO YOU KILLED IT!

07-11-15, 09:54 AM	#4382
Jimbuna Chief of the Boat Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: 250 metres below the surface Posts: 190,712 Downloads: 63 Uploads: 13	D. The unions are the major financial backers to the party....unfortunately. __________________ Wise men speak because they have something to say; Fools because they have to say something. Oh my God, not again!!

07-11-15, 11:18 AM	#4384
BossMark Fleet Admiral Join Date: May 2011 Location: Leeds, West Yorkshire Posts: 15,272 Downloads: 278 Uploads: 0	It should C but I agree with Jim it will be D. __________________ Never trust the Tories look what Thatcher and Major did in the 80s and 90s and look what the wicked witch May is doing now doing now

07-12-15, 05:30 AM	#4385
Jimbuna Chief of the Boat Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: 250 metres below the surface Posts: 190,712 Downloads: 63 Uploads: 13	I've decided I will vote in the leadership election then give it till the end of the year to see what impact the new leadership has before deciding on my party membership. I'm not all that hopeful though. __________________ Wise men speak because they have something to say; Fools because they have to say something. Oh my God, not again!!

07-13-15, 09:01 AM	#4387
STEED Lucky Jack Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Down Town UK Posts: 27,695 Downloads: 89 Uploads: 48	Listening to the radio sounds like those evil Tories are going to hit agency workers removing their holiday pay and sick pay. These Tory slugs will not be happy until they have turned back the clock to the days of the poor work house. __________________ Dr Who rest in peace 1963-2017. To borrow Davros saying...I NAME YOU CHIBNALL THE DESTROYER OF DR WHO YOU KILLED IT!

07-14-15, 12:42 PM	#4391
STEED Lucky Jack Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Down Town UK Posts: 27,695 Downloads: 89 Uploads: 48	Let cheer up Cameron and send him this.. http://www.amazon.co.uk/Books-by-the...&keywords=UKIP __________________ Dr Who rest in peace 1963-2017. To borrow Davros saying...I NAME YOU CHIBNALL THE DESTROYER OF DR WHO YOU KILLED IT!

07-14-15, 05:17 PM	#4392
Moonlight Ocean Warrior Join Date: Dec 2010 Location: Fookhall Copse Posts: 2,522 Downloads: 184 Uploads: 0	Sturgeon has scuppered the Tory plans for now but it would have been much better if she had kept her mouth shut until the fox hunting debate and vote had actually begun. Cameron will introduce it again when the EVEL debate is done up like a kipper so it gets the chance of becoming law, he might also decide his MP's need whipping into line as well to try and force it through parliament that way. Cameron is as sly as a fox and as slippery as an eel, this isn't over by a long way yet.

07-14-15, 08:44 PM	#4393
Oberon Lucky Jack Join Date: Jul 2002 Posts: 25,976 Downloads: 61 Uploads: 20	Sadly I think you're right Moonlight, Cameron has to dance to the tune his masters play him. Still, it was briefly nice to see his plans derailed slightly, even if it was only temporarily. Speaking of Sturgeon, I see Mhairi Black stood up in the commons and smashed it out of the park. Hopefully the lass will go far, providing Westminster doesn't taint her.

07-15-15, 08:39 AM	#4395
Jimbuna Chief of the Boat Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: 250 metres below the surface Posts: 190,712 Downloads: 63 Uploads: 13	The fox hunting issue has simply brought the EVEL debate forward which is precisely what Sturgeon wants....a step closer to independance. Cameron has been out manoeuvred. __________________ Wise men speak because they have something to say; Fools because they have to say something. Oh my God, not again!!