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vienna · 03-05-18, 05:51 PM

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vienna · 03-05-18, 05:52 PM

An "insult" only the people for whom it applies and thank you for admitting it is a fact!...

..and no charge for providing you a cop-out "excuse'...

"There are none so blind as those who will not see..."...

Too bad, it really is a very good article...

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u crank · 03-05-18, 06:18 PM

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Originally Posted by vienna

An "insult" only the people for whom it applies and thank you for admitting it is a fact!...

..and no charge for providing you a cop-out "excuse'...

"There are none so blind as those who will not see..."...

Not going to play that game. Never have.

em2nought · 03-05-18, 08:51 PM

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Originally Posted by mapuc

I haven't found the opposite yet
A person who in his or her writing writes lovely pro-Trump stuff and love President Trump.

Markus

Who wants to subject themselves to persecution, or being physically attacked or spit on? Maybe even fired? Maybe have your wife refuse to sleep with you, or divorce you? You wonder why polls were off?

Oh yeah, or who wants to undeservedly get called a racist or Nazi?

krashkart · 03-05-18, 10:12 PM

I miss the good old days when people would call me a libtard/libturd because I supported a president they hated. Good times.

Dowly · 03-06-18, 12:56 AM

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Originally Posted by Dowly

In this week's episode of "Mueller Mondays", former Trump aide Sam Nunberg gets subpoenaed by the Grand Jury, goes on live TV to say he's not going to cooperate. Says also he thinks they (Mueller) might have something on Trump.

Full interview on MSNBC:
http://www.msnbc.com/katy-tur/watch/...-1177240643765

What a trainwreck.

EDIT: CNN interview:

And now he is saying he probably ends up cooperating with the investigation. This is just bizarre.

http://time.com/5187176/sam-nunberg-...obert-mueller/

em2nought · 03-06-18, 05:41 AM

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Originally Posted by krashkart

I miss the good old days when people would call me a libtard/libturd because I supported a president they hated. Good times.

Nazi and racist are an escalation from those, there's really no where to go from there except to start trading punches.

Mr Quatro · 03-06-18, 09:22 AM

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Originally Posted by u crank

So now you are insulting people before the fact. I guess I'll not bother.

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Originally Posted by vienna

An "insult" only the people for whom it applies and thank you for admitting it is a fact!...

..and no charge for providing you a cop-out "excuse'...

"There are none so blind as those who will not see..."...

Too bad, it really is a very good article...

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Originally Posted by u crank

Not going to play that game. Never have.

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Originally Posted by krashkart

I miss the good old days when people would call me a libtard/libturd because I supported a president they hated. Good times.

Now we have become like the politicians themselves ... bickering will get you no where due to one is right and one is wrong ... leaving the community to vote to decide who wins ... ikalugin is behind all of this right

u crank · 03-06-18, 09:44 AM

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Originally Posted by em2nought

Who wants to subject themselves to persecution, or being physically attacked or spit on? Maybe even fired? Maybe have your wife refuse to sleep with you, or divorce you? You wonder why polls were off?

Oh yeah, or who wants to undeservedly get called a racist or Nazi?

It's the new blacklist. Anybody can be on it.

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Russiagate may have been aimed at Trump to start, but it's become a way of targeting all dissent

https://www.rollingstone.com/politic...issent-w517486

I've mention this before, the criminalization, shunning and shaming of political belief. When there is a Russian under every bed, the paranoia never stops. The news media loves it. It's a gift that keeps on giving. Want to attack your enemies...link their name with Putin's and tweet away.

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If you don't think that the endgame to all of this lunacy is a world where every America-critical movement from Black Lives Matter to Our Revolution to the Green Party is ultimately swept up in the collusion narrative along with Donald Trump and his alt-right minions, you haven't been paying attention.

That's because #Russiagate, from the start, was framed as an indictment not just of one potentially traitorous Trump, but all alternative politics in general. The story has evolved to seem less like a single focused investigation and more like the broad institutional response to a spate of shocking election results, targeting the beliefs of discontented Americans across the political spectrum.

Catfish · 03-06-18, 10:04 AM

May i remind that it is not the media that is "the evil". Not even if Trump says so.

u crank · 03-06-18, 10:16 AM

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Originally Posted by Catfish

May i remind that it is not the media that is "the evil". Not even if Trump says so.

Maybe not. But they are either willfully or ignorantly complicit. Whatever makes you feel better.

Hawk66 · 03-06-18, 10:31 AM

What I really not understand anymore is the amount of energy people on both sides of the Atlantic put into

- xyz is evil talking
- media is bad talking
- establishment bashing without having an idea what that is
- do not care anymore about science, economic wisdom and create it by themselves instead...a fantasy world
- do not seem to understand anymore how to treat people which have a different opinion
- into fanaticism and ideologism (my assumption was wrong that this is gone after the fall of the Soviet Union)

Frankly, instead I would put my energy in trying to shape the future, and be part of a competition of ideas to help the local community, country and world to be a better place and not destroying the fundaments of the same....else maybe you wake up some morning and realize that some countrie(s) - not being democratic- are in the lead...

Schroeder · 03-06-18, 10:42 AM

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Originally Posted by krashkart

I miss the good old days when people would call me a libtard/libturd because I supported a president they hated. Good times.

Now that's a name I haven't seen here in a long time. Welcome back.

August · 03-06-18, 05:42 PM

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Originally Posted by u crank

Maybe not. But they are either willfully or ignorantly complicit. Whatever makes you feel better.

I used to think it was more of the latter but given that they continue to repeat things they know aren't true it makes me believe it's become mostly the former. They have gone from reporting the news to shaping deliberately trying to shape public opinion.

vienna · 03-06-18, 09:03 PM

The investigation into the Trump team's activities has now seemingly extended to possible dealings with Arab Emirates:

Adviser to Emirates With Ties to Trump Aides Is Cooperating With Special Counsel --

https://www.nytimes.com/2018/03/06/u...eychelles.html

...and an article with a bit more detail on the questions surrounding Nader:

Mueller’s Focus on Adviser to Emirates Suggests Broader Investigation --

https://www.nytimes.com/2018/03/03/u...-emirates.html

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Hawk66 Samurai Navy Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Germany Posts: 597 Downloads: 36 Uploads: 0	What I really not understand anymore is the amount of energy people on both sides of the Atlantic put into - xyz is evil talking - media is bad talking - establishment bashing without having an idea what that is - do not care anymore about science, economic wisdom and create it by themselves instead...a fantasy world - do not seem to understand anymore how to treat people which have a different opinion - into fanaticism and ideologism (my assumption was wrong that this is gone after the fall of the Soviet Union) Frankly, instead I would put my energy in trying to shape the future, and be part of a competition of ideas to help the local community, country and world to be a better place and not destroying the fundaments of the same....else maybe you wake up some morning and realize that some countrie(s) - not being democratic- are in the lead... __________________ Only two things are infinite, the universe and human stupidity, and I'm not sure about the former. - Albert Einstein

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vienna Navy Seal Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Anywhere but the here & now... Posts: 7,528 Downloads: 85 Uploads: 0	The investigation into the Trump team's activities has now seemingly extended to possible dealings with Arab Emirates: Adviser to Emirates With Ties to Trump Aides Is Cooperating With Special Counsel -- https://www.nytimes.com/2018/03/06/u...eychelles.html ...and an article with a bit more detail on the questions surrounding Nader: Mueller’s Focus on Adviser to Emirates Suggests Broader Investigation -- https://www.nytimes.com/2018/03/03/u...-emirates.html <O> __________________ __________________________________________________ __