Afghanistan deadline - Page 29

Skybird · 08-22-21, 02:34 PM

Beside Americans, Britons and Germans, there are at least Polish, Norwegians and French on the ground in Kabul. I read that Australia has evacuated a small number of people, too, though the text said just "24".

Germans operate with 600 soldiers plus commandos and two helicopters for evacuation of individuals from houses in the city. They say the climate with the Americans is not always cooperative, they had to land three A400M flights at least despite US orders not to land, and collided with US military leadership head on repeatedly. So far the Germans every time prevailed. Its the reason why sometimes the German planes launch again with less people on board than they could load, although the Airbus transports now also try to overload with up to around 250 people (usually the cap is at 140). Fortunately the German general commanding the operation in Kabul is said to be quite assertive, if need be. German defence ministry gave him absolute card blanche, so he must not take dirt from anyone, and will not. On the other hand the commandos in the city operate under US surviellance and air support, so cooperation still seems to work in other fields. Just at the airport the Americans seem to be bullying everybody, or try to. "US mission first".

mapuc · 08-22-21, 05:22 PM

Evacuation is an fast ongoing process. It's going so fast that they don't have time to check who's getting on board

Following is a German article I don't know how to translate the page.

Following quote has been translated

Quote:

A criminal deported from Germany managed to re-enter the country on an evacuation plane.

https://www.welt.de/politik/deutschl...r-gelangt.html

Markus

August · 08-22-21, 07:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jeff-Groves

Ah the 16 Air Assault.
The UK's answer to our 82nd Airborne.
Any Chap that jumps out of an areoplane is a fine fellow in my book!

A cut above.

Cyborg322 · 08-23-21, 05:34 AM

https://metro.co.uk/video/taliban-wa.../?ito=vjs-link

No extension to deadline says Taliban spokesman as Biden looks lost and weak and Europeans over reliant on US. The Taliban go from strength to strength looking strong determined and in control . Who is going to back down ? Its going to be a smoke and mirrors affair hiding the tail between legs pull out by all. Or will the Taliban capitalise even further politically by allowing a last minute extension showing their ability to "negotiate" they appear too have all the right moves and vastly underestimated by the "experts" and governments despite the red flags going way back. What a monumental clustermess

Meanwhile

Arlo · 08-23-21, 09:08 AM

mapuc · 08-23-21, 10:19 AM

The battle for the last enklave are on its way or may have startet as I write this comment.

Can't remember the name of this enklave only it is the smallest of them all. And the clan who's in charge there is fighting the Taliban.

Now that Taliban got their hands on advanced weapon system I wonder if the other side has any chances.

Markus

Buddahaid · 08-23-21, 10:33 AM

What advanced weapons systems?

mapuc · 08-23-21, 10:40 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Buddahaid

What advanced weapons systems?

Black Hawk helicopters. I see them as an advanced weapon system
(Another thing is learning to use them)

Artillery Here I'm uncertain to whether it's ordinary artillery or these advanced type(seen on future weapon)

Markus

Otto Harkaman · 08-23-21, 10:57 AM

Afghan advanced weaponry; pack mules or donkeys to haul mortars and ammo

Buddahaid · 08-23-21, 11:00 AM

The Blackhawks are 40 something years old and not equipped with advanced weapons systems.

mapuc · 08-23-21, 11:16 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Buddahaid

The Blackhawks are 40 something years old and not equipped with advanced weapons systems.

You're right I made a search and it said in the article that USA toke the advanced weapon system with them and left some old equipment to the Afghan army and some new(didn't say what)

Here is the article
Headline

How Valuable Are The U.S. Weapons The Taliban Just Captured?

Quote:

The U.S. military removed planes, heavy weapons and sophisticated military equipment as it began winding down its operations in Afghanistan in the spring. But it couldn't take home 20 years of accumulated hardware and instead left much of it to the Afghan military.

https://www.npr.org/2021/08/21/10294...apons-captured

Markus

mapuc · 08-23-21, 11:42 AM

A female journalist who works for our Danish news channel, wrote this on her wall

"
Yesterday I saw the body of two people, wrapped in white robes. They had been crushed to death in front of the airport. Two out of several.
Again I saw desperate people. Little children. Crying.
And people who are forced to their knees. Disqualified. Degraded.
This is not just a tragedy unfolding. This is a failure without comparison.
I am ashamed. As a Dane. As Europeans. As a woman. Like Mother. As a daughter. As a human being.
This is happening in the name of us all. And it could have been avoided. How I am going to explain to my children sometime in the future that we all let this happen, I have no idea.
The British soldiers I talk to do not know either. Hard-skinned men who have fought the Taliban in Helmand are crying in front of me.
They feel powerless. “This is 1000 times worse. This is a tragedy. I have never seen so much desperation. ”
"

Markus

Jimbuna · 08-23-21, 12:43 PM

The Taliban will not extend the 31 August deadline for the current evacuation mission, a spokesman has said.

But the UK is expected to urge President Biden to delay the withdrawal of US forces beyond that date at Tuesday's G7 talks.

France is also calling for the US military presence to be extended..

Thousands of Afghans are trying to flee the country, a week after the Taliban seized control.

The German military says a member of the Afghan security forces was killed by unidentified attackers at Kabul airport on Monday.

The gun battle came as the US said it was stepping up its evacuation effort
Aircraft from Delta, United Airlines and others will help fly those already
evacuated from Afghanistan to final destinations.

US vice-president Kamala Harris - who's visiting Singapore - praised the US military for "doing very hard and difficult work" at Kabul airport.

Aktungbby · 08-23-21, 12:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Otto Harkaman

Afghan advanced weaponry; pack mules or donkeys to haul mortars and ammo

Quote:

Originally Posted by Buddahaid

The Blackhawks are 40 something years old and not equipped with advanced weapons systems.

HEY! no AK-47's in this pic!?? The poor Russians are gonna be pissed off!

August · 08-23-21, 12:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Buddahaid

The Blackhawks are 40 something years old and not equipped with advanced weapons systems.

Maybe but assuming they haven't killed the pilots, the Blackhawks give the Taliban an air-mobile capability they didn't have before.

08-22-21, 02:34 PM	#421
Skybird Soaring Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: the mental asylum named Germany Posts: 42,727 Downloads: 10 Uploads: 0	Beside Americans, Britons and Germans, there are *at least* Polish, Norwegians and French on the ground in Kabul. I read that Australia has evacuated a small number of people, too, though the text said just "24". Germans operate with 600 soldiers plus commandos and two helicopters for evacuation of individuals from houses in the city. They say the climate with the Americans is not always cooperative, they had to land three A400M flights at least despite US orders not to land, and collided with US military leadership head on repeatedly. So far the Germans every time prevailed. Its the reason why sometimes the German planes launch again with less people on board than they could load, although the Airbus transports now also try to overload with up to around 250 people (usually the cap is at 140). Fortunately the German general commanding the operation in Kabul is said to be quite assertive, if need be. German defence ministry gave him absolute card blanche, so he must not take dirt from anyone, and will not. On the other hand the commandos in the city operate under US surviellance and air support, so cooperation still seems to work in other fields. Just at the airport the Americans seem to be bullying everybody, or try to. "US mission first". __________________ If you feel nuts, consult an expert.

08-23-21, 05:34 AM	#424
Cyborg322 Scurvy Dog of the Deep Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Manchester England Posts: 1,125 Downloads: 390 Uploads: 0	https://metro.co.uk/video/taliban-wa.../?ito=vjs-link No extension to deadline says Taliban spokesman as Biden looks lost and weak and Europeans over reliant on US. The Taliban go from strength to strength looking strong determined and in control . Who is going to back down ? Its going to be a smoke and mirrors affair hiding the tail between legs pull out by all. Or will the Taliban capitalise even further politically by allowing a last minute extension showing their ability to "negotiate" they appear too have all the right moves and vastly underestimated by the "experts" and governments despite the red flags going way back. What a monumental clustermess Meanwhile __________________ Last edited by Cyborg322; 08-23-21 at 06:32 AM.

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08-23-21, 10:19 AM	#426
mapuc CINC Pacific Fleet Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Denmark Posts: 20,572 Downloads: 37 Uploads: 0	The battle for the last enklave are on its way or may have startet as I write this comment. Can't remember the name of this enklave only it is the smallest of them all. And the clan who's in charge there is fighting the Taliban. Now that Taliban got their hands on advanced weapon system I wonder if the other side has any chances. Markus __________________ My little lovely female cat

08-23-21, 10:33 AM	#427
Buddahaid Shark above Space Chicken Join Date: Jun 2008 Posts: 9,332 Downloads: 162 Uploads: 0	What advanced weapons systems? __________________ "However vast the darkness, we must provide our own light." Stanley Kubrick "Tomorrow belongs to those who can hear it coming." David Bowie

08-23-21, 10:57 AM	#429
Otto Harkaman Ace of the Deep Join Date: Jul 2014 Location: Lexington, Kentucky Posts: 1,198 Downloads: 31 Uploads: 0	Afghan advanced weaponry; pack mules or donkeys to haul mortars and ammo __________________ "If you want to know the age of the Earth, look upon the sea in a storm." -Joseph Conrad USS Pompano (SS-181) https://www.oneternalpatrol.com/uss-pompano-181.htm

08-23-21, 11:00 AM	#430
Buddahaid Shark above Space Chicken Join Date: Jun 2008 Posts: 9,332 Downloads: 162 Uploads: 0	The Blackhawks are 40 something years old and not equipped with advanced weapons systems. __________________ "However vast the darkness, we must provide our own light." Stanley Kubrick "Tomorrow belongs to those who can hear it coming." David Bowie

08-23-21, 11:42 AM	#432
mapuc CINC Pacific Fleet Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Denmark Posts: 20,572 Downloads: 37 Uploads: 0	A female journalist who works for our Danish news channel, wrote this on her wall " Yesterday I saw the body of two people, wrapped in white robes. They had been crushed to death in front of the airport. Two out of several. Again I saw desperate people. Little children. Crying. And people who are forced to their knees. Disqualified. Degraded. This is not just a tragedy unfolding. This is a failure without comparison. I am ashamed. As a Dane. As Europeans. As a woman. Like Mother. As a daughter. As a human being. This is happening in the name of us all. And it could have been avoided. How I am going to explain to my children sometime in the future that we all let this happen, I have no idea. The British soldiers I talk to do not know either. Hard-skinned men who have fought the Taliban in Helmand are crying in front of me. They feel powerless. “This is 1000 times worse. This is a tragedy. I have never seen so much desperation. ” " Markus __________________ My little lovely female cat

08-23-21, 12:43 PM	#433
Jimbuna Chief of the Boat Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: 250 metres below the surface Posts: 191,051 Downloads: 63 Uploads: 13	The Taliban will not extend the 31 August deadline for the current evacuation mission, a spokesman has said. But the UK is expected to urge President Biden to delay the withdrawal of US forces beyond that date at Tuesday's G7 talks. France is also calling for the US military presence to be extended.. Thousands of Afghans are trying to flee the country, a week after the Taliban seized control. The German military says a member of the Afghan security forces was killed by unidentified attackers at Kabul airport on Monday. The gun battle came as the US said it was stepping up its evacuation effort Aircraft from Delta, United Airlines and others will help fly those already evacuated from Afghanistan to final destinations. US vice-president Kamala Harris - who's visiting Singapore - praised the US military for "doing very hard and difficult work" at Kabul airport. __________________ Wise men speak because they have something to say; Fools because they have to say something. Oh my God, not again!!