Next President of the United States

[Skybird]

"Gender alone is not enough":

http://www.spiegel.de/international/world/0,1518,druck-586129,00.html

[AVGWarhawk]

Originally Posted by Mikhayl

Including Fox News or not ? By the way where are they in terms of ratings compared to other news channels ?

I watched FOX last night and they claim they are on top concerning ratings.

[AVGWarhawk]

Originally Posted by Skybird

"Gender alone is not enough":

http://www.spiegel.de/international/world/0,1518,druck-586129,00.html

Neither is it for Joe Biden. Can someone explain to Joe that J O B S is 4 letters and not 3. You go Joe the Crisis Guy.

Still Skybird, you have to admit Palin has been beaten to a pulp.

[AVGWarhawk]

Originally Posted by Tchocky

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Yeah, this is the only topic that's ever been discussed.

Tchocky, does it not seem strange to you that the Obama campaign keeps stating that the American public is more concerned with the economy and not attacks yet the clothing issue has been broadcasted for 2 days now and I suspect we will hear more about it today? This clothing issue is trivial compared to other substantial issues.

[Skybird]

Originally Posted by AVGWarhawk

Neither is it for Joe Biden. Can someone explain to Joe that J O B S is 4 letters and not 3. You go Joe the Crisis Guy.

Still Skybird, you have to admit Palin has been beaten to a pulp.

I have to admit nothing. She triggered logical reactions to her poor display of lacking ripeness and competence, and her character'S integrity is questionable, midly said. I remember class representatives from my schooldays that scored a better impression in trustworthiness and competence for the office she claims. And what is to be criticised about her in her views and political stands, like the example in the linked essay, to me makes a lot of sense. She is no candidate for the job of vice-president and eventually president - she is a carricature of that.

[Tchocky]

Clothing issue is being broadcast because

a) It's directly at odds with the McCain campaigns anti-pork, anti-spending themes, especially when Palin can well afford to clothe herself.
b) It does not resonate well against the economic back drop. $150k is what, over twice that average annual income?

That's why it's being broadcast. Regarding the main thrust of your question - It's not strange to me, because the Obama campaign does not control what is and is not covered by the mainstram media.

[AVGWarhawk]

Originally Posted by Skybird

I have to admit nothing. She triggered logical reactions to her poor display of lacking ripeness and competence, and her character'S integrity is questionable, midly said. I remember class representatives from my schooldays that scored a better impression in trustworthiness and competence for the office she claims. And what is to be criticised about her in her views and political stands, like the example in the linked essay, to me makes a lot of sense. She is no candidate for the job of vice-president and eventually president - she is a carricature of that.

She does not deserve the dripping contempt that she has received. Logical reaction are people hacking her private email? Spending time looking at her families Facebook attempting to find dirt? Talk of clothing and the money spent? That is logical when then are so many other issues at hand? So, in essence, you feel she deserves everything she gets because it is logical?

[AVGWarhawk]

Originally Posted by Tchocky

Clothing issue is being broadcast because

a) It's directly at odds with the McCain campaigns anti-pork, anti-spending themes, especially when Palin can well afford to clothe herself.
b) It does not resonate well against the economic back drop. $150k is what, over twice that average annual income?

That's why it's being broadcast. Regarding the main thrust of your question - It's not strange to me, because the Obama campaign does not control what is and is not covered by the mainstram media.

a) no it does not, have we examined what Michele Obama is wearing from a designer in Chicago or that Oprahs make up crew has handled Micheles looks?
b)has anyone looked at what Palin makes? She is not a millionaire to afford the very same clothing the others are wearing. I guess she should show up in a parka and snow boots.

For the last, the media is in Obama hip pocket. 4 major media do not attempt to hid that fact. Good Lord, two of the broadcasters were dismissed at the DNC because of their bias opinions. The media has done it all on their own.

[AVGWarhawk]

http://www.cnn.com/2008/POLITICS/10/...als/index.html

Interesting even for CNN:hmm:

[Tchocky]

Originally Posted by AVGWarhawk

a) no it does not, have we examined what Michele Obama is wearing from a designer in Chicago or that Oprahs make up crew has handled Micheles looks?

I don't know, has any new information come to light this week about either of these things?

b)has anyone looked at what Palin makes? She is not a millionaire to afford the very same clothing the others are wearing. I guess she should show up in a parka and snow boots.

She's worth at least a million, as far as I know.
Point is - does it seem excessive to be spending so much in only 2 months? Does that inspire fiscal rectitude? I don't believe this to be a very important story, more hilarious than anything else. But if it's going to be discussed, might as well ask what it says about the people concerned.

For the last, the media is in Obama hip pocket. 4 major media do not attempt to hid that fact. Good Lord, two of the broadcasters were dismissed at the DNC because of their bias opinions. The media has done it all on their own.

You can say that they are biased towards Obama, but it doesn't make it strange that they are covering this story.

[Frame57]

Originally Posted by Skybird

I have to admit nothing. She triggered logical reactions to her poor display of lacking ripeness and competence, and her character'S integrity is questionable, midly said. I remember class representatives from my schooldays that scored a better impression in trustworthiness and competence for the office she claims. And what is to be criticised about her in her views and political stands, like the example in the linked essay, to me makes a lot of sense. She is no candidate for the job of vice-president and eventually president - she is a carricature of that.

The people of Alaska seem convincingly satisfied with her "ripeness", her performance has been very good as Governor. Perhaps the class representatives you refer to are the ones who seemingly turned Berlin into Tijuana. Hell! The problem Skybird is that these class representatives are the problem. they are just polished slick talking used car salesmen. Our Congress has a lower approval rating than the President. Our Congress and Senate employes the term "Honorable" before their names. They are anything but honorable, they are dishonorable in every sense of the word and America is waking up to the fact the "politics as usual" is not cutting it anymore. The fact that Palen stick in their craw is enough for me to endorse her.

[AVGWarhawk]

Originally Posted by Tchocky

I don't know, has any new information come to light this week about either of these things?

She's worth at least a million, as far as I know.
Point is - does it seem excessive to be spending so much in only 2 months? Does that inspire fiscal rectitude? I don't believe this to be a very important story, more hilarious than anything else. But if it's going to be discussed, might as well ask what it says about the people concerned.

You can say that they are biased towards Obama, but it doesn't make it strange that they are covering this story.

1) no, nothing new on Michele Obama, just another bye I suppose. However, Oprah is offer up her production crew to Obama....and she did not want to make her show a political platform. Good grief.

2) it is kind of hilarious and a none issue, it just seems Palin can not break wind without a comment in the negative. Caribou Barbie she is.

3) I think it is strange they are covering the story, not just for a day but 2 days and going on 3. At least to the next insignificant piece of information.

Look, gents, Palin would not have been my number one choice but what's done is done, I'm only arguing the point that she has received more then enough beating from the media and they do not look to be stopping any time soon. I have to say that Obama go some respect in stating that the media needs to leave her daughter alone. Now, if Obama did not say that do you think Palin's daughter would be fair game? You bet! So does Obama control the media? In some respect he does. We can use Palin's pregnant daughter as fodder for the media that reared it's ugly head 3-4 weeks ago.

Now, the latest on Palin is her medical records. An ugly rumour is already started that Palins last child with Down's is really her daughters child. I have read some nasty comments at the news websites. The hatred for Palin is just unbelievable. Really, what has this women done other then help out Obama's campaign? They should be thanking her.

[AVGWarhawk]

Originally Posted by Frame57

The people of Alaska seem convincingly satisfied with her "ripeness", her performance has been very good as Governor. Perhaps the class representatives you refer to are the ones who seemingly turned Berlin into Tijuana. Hell! The problem Skybird is that these class representatives are the problem. they are just polished slick talking used car salesmen. Our Congress has a lower approval rating than the President. Our Congress and Senate employes the term "Honorable" before their names. They are anything but honorable, they are dishonorable in every sense of the word and America is waking up to the fact the "politics as usual" is not cutting it anymore. The fact that Palen stick in their craw is enough for me to endorse her.

This means nothing that she handles a billion dollar budget for Alaska and Obama has learned how to press the PRESENT button in the Senate over the past two years. Oh yeah, did you hear about her clothing?

[Tchocky]

Couldn't care less about her kids, really.
Her acceptance speech was the end of that.
Complaining about the media intruding on the lives of her children, then roaring about her son enlisting in the army on Sep 11, and how he's heading off to Iraq. Either you use your children as political footballs or you don't.

[AVGWarhawk]

Originally Posted by Tchocky

Couldn't care less about her kids, really.
Her acceptance speech was the end of that.
Complaining about the media intruding on the lives of her children, then roaring about her son enlisting in the army on Sep 11, and how he's heading off to Iraq. Either you use your children as political footballs or you don't.

Not so! The word was out on her daughter and the media was drooling like a pride of lions over a freshly killed boar. They were hushed by Obama (who does not control the media) remember? She addressed her daughters bad decision and moved on in part because Obama said it and it was so (Obama 1.1). Why should she not roar about her son. Should she just crap in his lap and not tell anyone of his achievement? I guess she would not be considered motherly if she did not roar. Again, the media can play it both ways concerning her son.