Wuhan virus 2020 - Page 278

August · 07-03-20, 02:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Onkel Neal

I don't care what Sean Hannity says, we can reduce the number of cases and death and still have a functional economy if we distance, mask, and reduce the number of social interactions, especially unnecessary ones. Texas had a good chance to avoid this, we knew how this played out in New York, but nooo, we opted to insist on our "rights and freedoms" instead of some traditional courtesy toward others. I guess we'll see how it plays out.

Darn tootin. Americans should always demand their rights and never tolerate some government jerkoff telling them they must surrender their freedom for anything, especially when given conflicting and weak reasons and unsustainable orders and advice. Masks don't work/masks are mandatory, two weeks to flatten the curve/this is the new normal. Since when is it common courtesy to encourage neighbors to inform on each others movements? To applaud riots while banning religious services?

We do not live at our governments pleasure Neal and I don't care what CNN has to say about it either.

Onkel Neal · 07-03-20, 03:44 PM

Ok, you're right. Let's start driving on the left side of the road. Screw the govt's laws.

mapuc · 07-03-20, 03:49 PM

I have learned that with freedom comes responsibility.

The Danish government have given me some freedom in this corona crisis, but I also have to take responsibility towards other people.

Markus

Mr Quatro · 07-03-20, 03:54 PM

August! CNN is not telling me anything ... My common sense is

I try to reuse my old throw away mask and they feel yucky ... So I just throw them away, but you can't do that with your face.

Wash, wash, hands, face, mask, your mouth, your mind and for heavens sake don't talk to anyone without a mask on.

One lady was interviewed on TV news and cried, "I didn't know you could get the virus from just talking to someone" She later died

I truly hope you don't get sick complaining about your freedoms

Dowly · 07-03-20, 03:58 PM

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Originally Posted by mapuc

I have learned that with freedom comes responsibility.

Americans' going to need a bit more time to understand that it looks like.

August · 07-03-20, 04:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Onkel Neal

Ok, you're right. Let's start driving on the left side of the road. Screw the govt's laws.

If you ever drive on my land Neal that will be exactly what I expect you to do...

Skybird · 07-03-20, 05:35 PM

Its not nice.

http://translate.google.com/translat...%23pageIndex_2

Thats why I do not accept it when anyone claims his right for freedom when he uses it to pose an infection danger to others. There is no right to expose others to what that article describes. Like there is no right to rape, to poison, to slaughter, to wound.

Personal freedom necessarily ends where one poses a risk to health, life and freedom of others. Where one does not care for that, the others have a right to self-defense.

Skybird · 07-03-20, 05:59 PM

New study shows that even in sunny Africa Vitamine-D deficiency is quite common, comparable to Europe. That is because where the sun shines heavy, people tend to avoid it. Or they must work all day in enclosed halls and rooms.

https://www.thelancet.com/journals/l...457-7/fulltext

Myself, I had just suffered my first attack by polymorphic light dermatosis this year, or in brief: sun allergy. I am vulnerable to it since last year, when I first was struck by it. I cannot expose my unprotected skin to sunlight anymore, must wear hats, sunblocker, UV-protecting long sleaves shirt loosely over my T-shirt, and thicker trousers than until last year. It sucks, but I cannot help it, sunlight causes me very severe skin rash and absolutely awful itching for 3-5 days of terrible itching and 12-14 days of skin dots. So, even in sunny summer I am certain I am highly vitamine-D deficient. In hotter countries, the natives oftehnj poratcice sun-.evading loiving styles and habits. So, a sunny country does not automatically means less Vitmaine-D deficiency of the population. People in Mexico and India are known to be very deficient, for example.

August · 07-03-20, 07:09 PM

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Researchers at the Henry Ford Health System in Southeast Michigan have found that early administration of the drug hydroxychloroquine makes hospitalized patients substantially less likely to die.
The study, published in the International Journal of Infectious Diseases, determined that hydroxychloroquine provided a "66% hazard ratio reduction," and hydroxychloroquine and azithromycin a 71 percent reduction, compared to neither treatment.
In-hospital mortality was 18.1 percent with both drugs, 13.5 percent with just hydroxychloroquine, 22.4 percent with azithromycin alone, and 26.4 percent with neither drug. "Prospective trials are needed" for further review, the researchers note.
"Our results do differ from some other studies," Dr. Marcus Zervos, who heads the hospital's infectious diseases unit, said at a news conference. "What we think was important in ours ... is that patients were treated early. For hydroxychloroquine to have a benefit, it needs to begin before the patients begin to suffer some of the severe immune reactions that patients can have with COVID."

https://www.foxnews.com/politics/hyd...onavirus-study

vienna · 07-03-20, 07:22 PM

Well, you know the situation is pretty bad when Mexico closes its borders to entry from the US...

Mexico closes US border in Arizona to stop July 4th visitors, citing COVID-19 fears --

https://www.sacbee.com/news/coronavi...243985782.html

Whaddaya know...

...'Make America A Pariah Again'...

<O>

Dowly · 07-03-20, 08:57 PM

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Originally Posted by August

https://www.foxnews.com/politics/hyd...onavirus-study

They prescribed steroids to a big majority (70%+) of those who got Hydroxychloroquine compared to groups that didn't. Steroids are a known early treatment for covid-19.

Another problem is that this wasn't a randomized, blind trial. Randomized trials have shown no effects of Hydroxychloroquine as treatment for covid-19.

Mr Quatro · 07-03-20, 10:17 PM

One of the known side effects of Covid-19 is listed as fear

Skybird · 07-04-20, 12:47 AM

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Originally Posted by Mr Quatro

One of the known side effects of Covid-19 is listed as fear

That ^ is a very stupid saying.

This multi-organic desease strikes the whole system. The suffering of 15-20% of infected patients, is immense. This virus commands respect. Not stupid denial or ridicule.

Jimbuna · 07-04-20, 05:16 AM

England reopens pubs, restaurants, hairdressers and cinemas after a major relaxation of lockdown curbs.

Two households are now allowed to meet indoors or outside, including overnight stays.

Places of worship can open for prayers and services, including weddings with up to 30 guests - subject to social distancing.

Latest daily figures show a further 137 people died with coronavirus in the UK, bringing the total to 44,131

The US recorded its largest single-day rise in infections on Friday, with more than 57,000 recorded.

America's 4 July Independence Day celebrations are muted this year with cities cancelling parades.

Worldwide, more than 11 million people have now been infected and more than 525,000 have died.

Jimbuna · 07-04-20, 05:23 AM

England's chief medical officer, Prof Chris Whitty, has urged people to take a "really disciplined approach" to social distancing as he warned of the risk of coronavirus spreading in pubs.

Although you can get a pint in a pub in England from today, each UK nation’s lockdown differs.

In Northern Ireland, pubs and restaurants reopened on Friday.

In Scotland, beer gardens and outdoor restaurants will be allowed to reopen from 6 July, and indoor areas can be used from 15 July.

The Welsh government has promised talks with the hospitality sector about a "potential phased" reopening, but no dates have yet been given.

Brazilian President Jair Bolsonaro has sanctioned a law making the use of masks in public obligatory during the coronavirus crisis.However, he vetoed their use in shops, churches and schools.

Australia's Victoria state reported 108 new infections in the past 24 hours. This is the second-highest daily total recorded in the state since the outbreak began.

A court has launched an inquiry into the French government's handling of the coronavirus response.

The Law Court of the Republic - which deals with claims of ministerial misconduct - is focusing on three senior figures, including former PM Édouard Philippe, following complaints from unions and doctors.

07-03-20, 03:54 PM	#4159
Mr Quatro Navy Seal Join Date: May 2013 Posts: 6,772 Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	August! CNN is not telling me anything ... My common sense is I try to reuse my old throw away mask and they feel yucky ... So I just throw them away, but you can't do that with your face. Wash, wash, hands, face, mask, your mouth, your mind and for heavens sake don't talk to anyone without a mask on. One lady was interviewed on TV news and cried, "I didn't know you could get the virus from just talking to someone" She later died I truly hope you don't get sick complaining about your freedoms __________________ pla•teau noun a relatively stable level, period, or condition a level of attainment or achievement Lord help me get to the next plateau ..

07-03-20, 05:35 PM	#4162
Skybird Soaring Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: the mental asylum named Germany Posts: 42,806 Downloads: 10 Uploads: 0	Its not nice. http://translate.google.com/translat...%23pageIndex_2 Thats why I do not accept it when anyone claims his right for freedom when he uses it to pose an infection danger to others. There is no right to expose others to what that article describes. Like there is no right to rape, to poison, to slaughter, to wound. Personal freedom necessarily ends where one poses a risk to health, life and freedom of others. Where one does not care for that, the others have a right to self-defense. __________________ If you feel nuts, consult an expert.

07-03-20, 05:59 PM	#4163
Skybird Soaring Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: the mental asylum named Germany Posts: 42,806 Downloads: 10 Uploads: 0	New study shows that even in sunny Africa Vitamine-D deficiency is quite common, comparable to Europe. That is because where the sun shines heavy, people tend to avoid it. Or they must work all day in enclosed halls and rooms. https://www.thelancet.com/journals/l...457-7/fulltext Myself, I had just suffered my first attack by polymorphic light dermatosis this year, or in brief: sun allergy. I am vulnerable to it since last year, when I first was struck by it. I cannot expose my unprotected skin to sunlight anymore, must wear hats, sunblocker, UV-protecting long sleaves shirt loosely over my T-shirt, and thicker trousers than until last year. It sucks, but I cannot help it, sunlight causes me very severe skin rash and absolutely awful itching for 3-5 days of terrible itching and 12-14 days of skin dots. So, even in sunny summer I am certain I am highly vitamine-D deficient. In hotter countries, the natives oftehnj poratcice sun-.evading loiving styles and habits. So, a sunny country does not automatically means less Vitmaine-D deficiency of the population. People in Mexico and India are known to be very deficient, for example. __________________ If you feel nuts, consult an expert.

07-03-20, 07:22 PM	#4165
vienna Navy Seal Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Anywhere but the here & now... Posts: 7,731 Downloads: 85 Uploads: 0	Well, you know the situation is pretty bad when Mexico closes its borders to entry from the US... Mexico closes US border in Arizona to stop July 4th visitors, citing COVID-19 fears -- https://www.sacbee.com/news/coronavi...243985782.html Whaddaya know... ...'Make America A Pariah Again'... <O> __________________ __________________________________________________ __

07-03-20, 10:17 PM	#4167
Mr Quatro Navy Seal Join Date: May 2013 Posts: 6,772 Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	One of the known side effects of Covid-19 is listed as fear __________________ pla•teau noun a relatively stable level, period, or condition a level of attainment or achievement Lord help me get to the next plateau ..

07-03-20, 03:44 PM	#4157
Onkel Neal Born to Run Silent Join Date: Jan 1997 Location: Cougar Trap, Texas Posts: 21,386 Downloads: 541 Uploads: 224	Ok, you're right. Let's start driving on the left side of the road. Screw the govt's laws.

07-03-20, 03:49 PM	#4158
mapuc CINC Pacific Fleet Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Denmark Posts: 20,632 Downloads: 37 Uploads: 0	I have learned that with freedom comes responsibility. The Danish government have given me some freedom in this corona crisis, but I also have to take responsibility towards other people. Markus

07-04-20, 05:16 AM	#4169
Jimbuna Chief of the Boat Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: 250 metres below the surface Posts: 191,405 Downloads: 63 Uploads: 13	England reopens pubs, restaurants, hairdressers and cinemas after a major relaxation of lockdown curbs. Two households are now allowed to meet indoors or outside, including overnight stays. Places of worship can open for prayers and services, including weddings with up to 30 guests - subject to social distancing. Latest daily figures show a further 137 people died with coronavirus in the UK, bringing the total to 44,131 The US recorded its largest single-day rise in infections on Friday, with more than 57,000 recorded. America's 4 July Independence Day celebrations are muted this year with cities cancelling parades. Worldwide, more than 11 million people have now been infected and more than 525,000 have died. __________________ Wise men speak because they have something to say; Fools because they have to say something. Oh my God, not again!!

07-04-20, 05:23 AM	#4170
Jimbuna Chief of the Boat Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: 250 metres below the surface Posts: 191,405 Downloads: 63 Uploads: 13	England's chief medical officer, Prof Chris Whitty, has urged people to take a "really disciplined approach" to social distancing as he warned of the risk of coronavirus spreading in pubs. Although you can get a pint in a pub in England from today, each UK nation’s lockdown differs. In Northern Ireland, pubs and restaurants reopened on Friday. In Scotland, beer gardens and outdoor restaurants will be allowed to reopen from 6 July, and indoor areas can be used from 15 July. The Welsh government has promised talks with the hospitality sector about a "potential phased" reopening, but no dates have yet been given. Brazilian President Jair Bolsonaro has sanctioned a law making the use of masks in public obligatory during the coronavirus crisis.However, he vetoed their use in shops, churches and schools. Australia's Victoria state reported 108 new infections in the past 24 hours. This is the second-highest daily total recorded in the state since the outbreak began. A court has launched an inquiry into the French government's handling of the coronavirus response. The Law Court of the Republic - which deals with claims of ministerial misconduct - is focusing on three senior figures, including former PM Édouard Philippe, following complaints from unions and doctors. __________________ Wise men speak because they have something to say; Fools because they have to say something. Oh my God, not again!!