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em2nought · 01-20-18, 11:07 AM

So from this article I conclude that 78% of the population are idiots. https://www.zerohedge.com/news/2017-...-them-are-debt

Explains how Hillary was able to get as many votes as she did.

If you live paycheck to paycheck, big bad business is not responsible. You are! YOU ARE RESPONSIBLE!

Unless you have some underlying medical factor, then you get a pass.

Buddahaid · 01-20-18, 12:36 PM

That's it of course! It must be exhausting knowing everything.

Platapus · 01-20-18, 12:49 PM

Contractors and FFRDC's will be affected as we still have to perform the work but the companies are self-funding at risk.

While the government employees will almost certainly be getting back pay during the shut down, the same can't be said for contractors and FFRDCs. The government might back fund the companies, but might not.

I do feel for the smaller contracting companies that might not have the float to cover.

Last time this happened, we had to take vacation and in many cases had to borrow vacation time. It's awesome when the children in congress shut down the government right after the holiday season.

Hopefully this won't last too long. It might be done by Monday if we are lucky.

razark · 01-20-18, 01:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Platapus

Last time this happened, we had to take vacation and in many cases had to borrow vacation time.

Last time, our company authorized vacation time, but after it dragged on for a while told us we were no longer able to. By that point, my department was cleared to cover some of our duties, so we were able to work from home. After it was over, the company replaced our vacation time.

But now, new contract, new company. We'll see what happens when we get our orders Monday.

Platapus · 01-20-18, 01:27 PM

I am sure that corporations will make what ever decision is in the best interest of their employees and not just focus on short term profits.

vienna · 01-20-18, 02:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Platapus

I am sure that corporations will make what ever decision is in the best interest of their employees and not just focus on short term profits.

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Schroeder · 01-20-18, 02:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Platapus

I am sure that corporations will make what ever decision is in the best interest of their employees and not just focus on short term profits.

Good one.

mapuc · 01-20-18, 04:13 PM

No paycheck for government employees I have heard throughout the day

Rest assure you government and you politician will receive their regular paycheck.

Markus

STEED · 01-20-18, 05:55 PM

Platapus · 01-20-18, 06:07 PM

Mick Mulvaney, director of The Office of Management and Budget. “I found out for the first time last night that the person who technically shuts down the government down is me, which is kind of cool,”

https://www.vox.com/policy-and-polit...-shutdown-cool

Government shutdown is "kinda cool"?

Sigh.

vienna · 01-20-18, 07:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Platapus

Mick Mulvaney, director of The Office of Management and Budget. “I found out for the first time last night that the person who technically shuts down the government down is me, which is kind of cool,”

https://www.vox.com/policy-and-polit...-shutdown-cool

Government shutdown is "kinda cool"?

Sigh.

Whaddya expect? Mulvaney is another one of those "stellar" Trump appointments, where actual knowledge of what they're supposed to administer is optional and, by current examples, highly discouraged. He used to be vocally anti-deficit, but when Trump appointed him to the OMB, he puckered up real good, planted a big one on Trumps ample posterior, and found no problem at all with the deficit-busting effects of the Trump/GOP tax "reforms"...

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August · 01-21-18, 10:43 AM

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Originally Posted by Platapus

Government shutdown is "kinda cool"?

Sigh.

Human nature. Anyone who says it's not cool to wield that kind of power is lying.

Rockstar · 01-21-18, 11:36 AM

True, I was thinking the same thing. When you come to realize your full authority has been called upon you sometimes say things like that during holy crap moments. He said what was on his mind.

I probably would have said something very similar had I been in his shoes. Trying to overcome the shaking in my hands as I wrote the email to all departments to make preparations to shut it down.

Weasel665 · 01-21-18, 12:00 PM

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Originally Posted by mapuc

No paycheck for government employees I have heard throughout the day

Rest assure you government and you politician will receive their regular paycheck.

Markus

I've been a federal employee since 1993 and have lived through several of these. Once back to work I was always paid for time not worked during Shutdown Furlough. The Administrative Furlough in 2013 federal employees were not paid for 88 hours over a several month time frame.

em2nought · 01-21-18, 12:02 PM

What conservative wouldn't think it was "kinda cool" to shut down the government, but then we don't live paycheck to paycheck.

01-20-18, 11:07 AM	#4141
em2nought Ocean Warrior Join Date: Mar 2004 Posts: 3,485 Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	So from this article I conclude that 78% of the population are idiots. https://www.zerohedge.com/news/2017-...-them-are-debt Explains how Hillary was able to get as many votes as she did. If you live paycheck to paycheck, big bad business is not responsible. You are! YOU ARE RESPONSIBLE! Unless you have some underlying medical factor, then you get a pass. __________________ em2nought is ecstatic garbage! Last edited by em2nought; 01-20-18 at 11:07 AM. Reason: unless you have some medical factor

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Buddahaid Shark above Space Chicken Join Date: Jun 2008 Posts: 9,332 Downloads: 162 Uploads: 0	That's it of course! It must be exhausting knowing everything. __________________ "However vast the darkness, we must provide our own light." Stanley Kubrick "Tomorrow belongs to those who can hear it coming." David Bowie

01-20-18, 12:49 PM	#4143
Platapus Fleet Admiral Join Date: Oct 2006 Posts: 19,397 Downloads: 63 Uploads: 0	Contractors and FFRDC's will be affected as we still have to perform the work but the companies are self-funding at risk. While the government employees will almost certainly be getting back pay during the shut down, the same can't be said for contractors and FFRDCs. The government might back fund the companies, but might not. I do feel for the smaller contracting companies that might not have the float to cover. Last time this happened, we had to take vacation and in many cases had to borrow vacation time. It's awesome when the children in congress shut down the government right after the holiday season. Hopefully this won't last too long. It might be done by Monday if we are lucky. __________________ abusus non tollit usum - A right should NOT be withheld from people on the basis that some tend to abuse that right.

01-20-18, 01:27 PM	#4145
Platapus Fleet Admiral Join Date: Oct 2006 Posts: 19,397 Downloads: 63 Uploads: 0	I am sure that corporations will make what ever decision is in the best interest of their employees and not just focus on short term profits. __________________ abusus non tollit usum - A right should NOT be withheld from people on the basis that some tend to abuse that right.

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STEED Lucky Jack Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Down Town UK Posts: 27,695 Downloads: 89 Uploads: 48	__________________ Dr Who rest in peace 1963-2017. To borrow Davros saying...I NAME YOU CHIBNALL THE DESTROYER OF DR WHO YOU KILLED IT!

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mapuc CINC Pacific Fleet Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Denmark Posts: 20,563 Downloads: 37 Uploads: 0	No paycheck for government employees I have heard throughout the day Rest assure you government and you politician will receive their regular paycheck. Markus

01-20-18, 06:07 PM	#4150
Platapus Fleet Admiral Join Date: Oct 2006 Posts: 19,397 Downloads: 63 Uploads: 0	Mick Mulvaney, director of The Office of Management and Budget. “I found out for the first time last night that the person who technically shuts down the government down is me, which is kind of cool,” https://www.vox.com/policy-and-polit...-shutdown-cool Government shutdown is "kinda cool"? Sigh. __________________ abusus non tollit usum - A right should NOT be withheld from people on the basis that some tend to abuse that right.

01-21-18, 11:36 AM	#4153
Rockstar In the Brig Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Zendia Bar & Grill Posts: 12,614 Downloads: 10 Uploads: 0	True, I was thinking the same thing. When you come to realize your full authority has been called upon you sometimes say things like that during holy crap moments. He said what was on his mind. I probably would have said something very similar had I been in his shoes. Trying to overcome the shaking in my hands as I wrote the email to all departments to make preparations to shut it down. Last edited by Rockstar; 01-21-18 at 12:00 PM.

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em2nought Ocean Warrior Join Date: Mar 2004 Posts: 3,485 Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	What conservative wouldn't think it was "kinda cool" to shut down the government, but then we don't live paycheck to paycheck. __________________ em2nought is ecstatic garbage!