2016 US Presidential election thread

[Onkel Neal]

Originally Posted by Rockin Robbins

Never forget that the ones who see nothing wrong with accepting around $80 million in contributions to the Clinton Foundation from the nations who also fund ISIS, the nations where homosexuals are killed, having no rights under their societies, are the liberals lecturing Vice President Elect Pence.

‘Hamilton’ Star Who Lectured Pence Under Fire for ‘Racist,’ ‘Sexist’ Tweets

[August]

Originally Posted by Onkel Neal

‘Hamilton’ Star Who Lectured Pence Under Fire for ‘Racist,’ ‘Sexist’ Tweets

Guess he should have paid more attention to the lesson about people in glass houses. Did he think he could publicly lecture the Vice-President elect without being scrutinized himself?

[Oberon]

Ah, beautiful Breitbart...the new mouthpiece of Washington.

Heil to the children of the sun.

Heil victory.

[Buddahaid]

Originally Posted by Rockin Robbins

Never forget that the ones who see nothing wrong with accepting around $80 million in contributions to the Clinton Foundation from the nations who also fund ISIS, the nations where homosexuals are killed, having no rights under their societies, are the liberals lecturing Vice President Elect Pence.

It's not likely that criticism from those with such a staggering disconnect from reality would have much credence. Support for Clinton was nothing short of support for bribery meant to cause the execution of the LGBT community who supported her. It was support for the Caliphate of the Islamic Republic, whose aim is to unite the world under the principles of what they consider Sharia.

Sharia is not compatible with the US Constitution or our republican ideals. Sharia would kill the entire LGBT community. That is reality. 80 million reasons. Based on the reality that the liberals were paid to further Sharia, who is more likely to defend LGBT people, Trump or the alternative? The answer is clear. Trump.

If you are speaking about Algeria, remember that the US and the west sold millions of dollars in arms there in the late 80's. Politics of the region aren't that different but methods have evolved.

[eddie]

Originally Posted by Oberon

Ah, beautiful Breitbart...the new mouthpiece of Washington.

Heil to the children of the sun.

Heil victory.

[Onkel Neal]

Originally Posted by Oberon

Ah, beautiful Breitbart...the new mouthpiece of Washington.

Heil to the children of the sun.

Heil victory.

Smirk all you want, at least they report the news. See this on CNN?

You only see bias when you oppose it.

[August]

Apparently President Trump is all the fault of the Germans.

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2016...n-germany.html

[Skybird]

I was wondering how long it would take to find out...

However, the following piece is unfortunately only in German, but as so often when Gunnar Heinsohn publishes something, it is very solid and very good, so whatever it is worth, I give the link. Its about what Trump has to do with King and the Civil Rights movement, and with Cesar Chavez' Chicano Civil Rights movement, and why Trump only in parts was voted for by so-called White Trash ("takers"), and more by middle class white workers ("makers"). White Trash and white labour movement - are two very different things, and both dominant parties have different links there.


http://www.achgut.com/artikel/king_c...beiterbewegung

You can try with Google Autobot translation, I noticed that it has become slightly more usable in recent time, as long as the sentences are not too complex and over-structured. Maybe not with Heinsohn, however. Try and see if you can get the core of his text.

https://translate.google.de/translat...ung&edit-text=

I know Heinsohn's work a bit. He knows his stuff. Books by him no longer in print get offered for sometimes hilarious prices. I have seen "Söhne und Weltmacht" once for over 400 Euros - a paperback editon that originally costed less than 10 Euros.

[AVGWarhawk]

Originally Posted by Onkel Neal

Smirk all you want, at least they report the news. See this on CNN?

You only see bias when you oppose it.

Oh my, the bias as seen on the news stations is so thick we can cut it with a knife. It is to the point I do not trust any of the news. Further, it has gotten so bad Facebook is not being pushed to curtail fake news links that appear on FB and or are posted by a FB user.

[AVGWarhawk]

Originally Posted by August

Apparently President Trump is all the fault of the Germans.

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2016...n-germany.html

Nothing like knowing a piece of one's family history....and that is all this story is.

[Bilge_Rat]

Originally Posted by Oberon

Ah, beautiful Breitbart...the new mouthpiece of Washington.

Heil to the children of the sun.

Heil victory.

so are you really buying into the line that all Trump supporters are Nazis?

I have to admit, one of the most stupid line of attack that I read during the campaign was that Trump was anti-semitic. One has to be really blind to believe that, considering his closest adviser, Jared Kushner and his daughter Ivanka are both jewish.

[Oberon]

Originally Posted by Onkel Neal

Smirk all you want, at least they report the news. See this on CNN?

You only see bias when you oppose it.

Nope, I saw this on CNN though:



And this on Breitbart:









But I guess in this new world of Post-Truth, it doesn't really matter what is said anymore, just who is saying it. And I know it's popular now to rail against the 'Lugenpress' so there's that. It's all good fun really!

Originally Posted by Bilge_Rat

so are you really buying into the line that all Trump supporters are Nazis?

I have to admit, one of the most stupid line of attack that I read during the campaign was that Trump was anti-semitic. One has to be really blind to believe that, considering his closest adviser, Jared Kushner and his daughter Ivanka are both jewish.

Nope, not all of them, probably not even a majority of them if I'm honest, but Trumps rhetoric and his subsequent election has brought all the closet Nazis out and given them cause for celebration, and nothing has been done to put them back in the closet where they belong.
Do I think Trump is a fascist? No, not really, I think that he's an opportunist who will say whatever he thinks will get him votes, he will appeal to whoever he can to get views. His campaign was essentially an internet troll, and so it's little surprise that the trolls of the internet rallied around him. Now he's actually in power, I think he's starting to realise that he's written a number of cheques that he can't actually cash. Will that annoy some of his supporters? Perhaps. Certainly those who chanted "Lock Her Up!" at his rallies are going to be disappointed with his recent announcement that he won't be pursuing legal action against Clinton.
But some of his supporters, yes, yes they are fascist and it's a very sad thing that this election and this rhetoric has made them think that they are relevent again. It's not just in America, it's happening all over the western world, and the movement does seem to be growing. If it collapses in on itself and nothing happens then you'll find no-one happier than me, but if it doesn't, then we've got some problems coming.

[Oberon]

Originally Posted by AVGWarhawk

Oh my, the bias as seen on the news stations is so thick we can cut it with a knife. It is to the point I do not trust any of the news. Further, it has gotten so bad Facebook is not being pushed to curtail fake news links that appear on FB and or are posted by a FB user.

Yes, it is getting silly now. I've seen it on both sides, believe me, and trying to carve through it and find out what is actually going on is getting very annoying. But that's where we are now, in 'Post-Truth' where facts matter less than emotions. Heck, over here we've had government ministers saying that people are fed up with experts, such is the state that we're in.
It's a bloody mess, and no-one is free of it.

[Mr Quatro]

You only see bias when you oppose it.

Isn't that the same as "perception = reality"?

[Oberon]

Looks like he's realising the monster that he helped energise:

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-38069469