Afghanistan deadline

[Buddahaid]

Originally Posted by blackswan40

Why would Iran do the west any favours.

Regional stability is in their best interest.

[mapuc]

Interesting is Afghanistan under the Taliban = unstable region ?

Markus

[Buddahaid]

Originally Posted by mapuc

Interesting is Afghanistan under the Taliban = unstable region ?

Markus

I don't think there was ever stability there and there will be those that will still be fighting the Taliban.

[Skybird]

And there are some who are even worse than the Taleban.

I assume the US will keep an ELINT eye on things and occasionally spend a RC air visit, dropping a present.

ELINT misses out on HUMINT, however. Whether that loss pays out bad or not, remains to be seen. As usual, I am not optimistic.

I would like iof media spend more focus on the theft of biometric databases. It illustrates a deep and very serious dnager valdi for us Wetserners alla cross Wetsenr nations. Indian poipulaiton and US population alrready has seen siugnficant parts fo their citizend havign their exe scans and fingeprrints being stolen by "somebody". Numbers I believe to recall from already several years ago said one third of the US population and several hundred million Indian citizens (India runs a very extensive biometric regime on its population) have their data beign stolen by somebody, may it be hostile governments, criminal organisations, political extremists hoping to come to power in the future, big business - whomever.

Ask your doc for an emergency injection of imagination if you do not see an issue in that. Its a very grave concern as long as you have no magic orb allowing you to see into the future and know whether or not legislation will turn to abuse these data, or not. Whatever polticians cna break, they will break it sooner or later, and Murphy's law says that evertyhing that could theoretically happen, will happen if you wait long enough. When it comes to state and politics, I always expect the worst and do never trust.

[mapuc]

Originally Posted by Buddahaid

I don't think there was ever stability there and there will be those that will still be fighting the Taliban.

I had the impression that the region was somehow stable when USA and NATO was in Afghanistan.

Different terror groups has what I know been fighting each others.

Markus

[Jimbuna]

Originally Posted by mapuc

An easy walkover for the Taliban, which they may lose again if the play their cards wrong.

Heard in the news some days ago. If Afghanistan once again turns into a terror nest, USA and NATO will intervene.

Markus

Not if either Russia or China fill the vacuum.

[August]

Originally Posted by mapuc

Interesting is Afghanistan under the Taliban = unstable region ?

Markus

The Taliban will not take over the entire country. The various tribes still control their own enclaves so civil war there will continue as it always has like Budda says.

[mapuc]

I thought that Chinas interest in Afghanistan was purely civilian and not military.
Russia have they forgot what happened last time they tried to play cards with Afghanistan. As someone wrote Russia could support northern group who's fighting the Taliban.

Markus

[mapuc]

Originally Posted by August

The Taliban will not take over the entire country. The various tribes still control their own enclaves so civil war there will continue as it always has like Budda says.

For how long?. Now the Taliban has very modern weapons.
I don't know how well equip the other side is.

Markus

[Skybird]

Originally Posted by mapuc

I thought that Chinas interest in Afghanistan was purely civilian and not military.

Thjeir intrest is economical, and they will use money, bribery, making Afghjnaistan dependent and maybe even spoars emilitary means to secure those eoch9mic interests. Afghanistan sits on trillions of rare earth, moinerals, resources.



China wants it all. To use it itself. To prevent an economic rival (rare earths), and preventing others form having these earths (so that they depend on China selling them). For their Silkroad 2.0 project.



They also want to keep an eye on Islam, because in China they supress over six dozen cultural and ethnical minorities. The spirit of uprise should be kept far, far away. They can see in Africa, Europe, America, how bad it is with Islam, thats why they crack down so hard on the Uighurs, too.

[mapuc]

Originally Posted by Skybird

Thjeir intrest is economical, and they will use money, bribery, making Afghjnaistan dependent and maybe even spoars emilitary means to secure those eoch9mic interests. Afghanistan sits on trillions of rare earth, moinerals, resources.



China wants it all. To use it itself. To prevent an economic rival (rare earths), and preventing others form having these earths (so that they depend on China selling them). For their Silkroad 2.0 project.



They also want to keep an eye on Islam, because in China they supress over six dozen cultural and ethnical minorities. The spirit of uprise should be kept far, far away. They can see in Africa, Europe, America, how bad it is with Islam, thats why they crack down so hard on the Uighurs, too.

A few weeks ago I wrote that I could very well imagine Chinese soldiers in Afghanistan. I change this to likely ´cause I think China isn't interested in making same mistake.

Markus

[Skybird]

https://www.nbcnews.com/think/opinio...sn-ncna1277267

While neoconservatives claim to be motivated by a commitment to promoting liberal democracy abroad, their push for war and empire was justified through lies and deception. And that played a huge part in undermining the stability of liberal democracy here at home.
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Their hubris and greed cost us trillions of dollars and thousands of lives — and did more to diminish American power than our stated adversaries ever could.

[Sean C]

Originally Posted by Jimbuna

The US has advised citizens not to travel to Kabul airport because of possible security threats at the gates.

Well, damn. I was just planning a trip there.

[mapuc]

When People from Afghanistan came to Denmark to seek asylum they said that they would get killed if they are sent back.

Some days ago we could read in Danish news article Afghan refugees who already got asylum in Denmark, crying for help from the Danish government, they want to come home.

Edit
There are around 20.000 Afghan people in Denmark and not everyone of these have been on vacation in their homeland.
End edit

Markus

[Skybird]

Getting disgusted in the morning. This complete waste of a German government offers Afghans eligible for Evacuation money if the stay in Afghanistan, not wanting to leave anymore. "Throw a last Party, have a life and get killed happily afterwards!"


Maybe we should sent back the Palettes with beer that we evacuated with the last two Planes (that returned the Bundeswehr) instead of loading afghans on board. And a music box. Taliban may go crazy, lose their minds and drop dead. With German beer and German Schlager, everything looks just half as bad.