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Old 09-03-17, 08:16 AM   #391
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Thunderous words. Tweets will follow, no doubt. Get to the real nitty gritty in act and deed - and see South Korea turning into the biggest of blockades. This parading and lamenting and word-shelling impresses nobody. Its more like just whistling in the dark.
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Old 09-03-17, 08:22 AM   #392
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Thunderous words. Tweets will follow, no doubt. Get to the real nitty gritty in act and deed - and see South Korea turning into the biggest of blockades. This parading and lamenting and word-shelling impresses nobody. Its more like just whistling in the dark.
I tend to agree then start worrying "What if it is for real now"
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Old 09-03-17, 09:42 AM   #393
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Nah, North Korea is off the menu now. The US has lost this one, it just hasn't realised it yet, or perhaps it just doesn't want to. Either way Kim Jong-un has achieved what he wanted to, a real deterrent to American actions, and he will never, ever give that up, not when he looks at what happened to the last person to trust America (Gaddafi).
So the US can either adapt to the new state of affairs, or it can start a nuclear war that will kill thousands if not millions. The choice is Donalds.

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Old 09-03-17, 09:44 AM   #394
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Thunderous words. Tweets will follow, no doubt. Get to the real nitty gritty in act and deed - and see South Korea turning into the biggest of blockades. This parading and lamenting and word-shelling impresses nobody. Its more like just whistling in the dark.
You knock our President if he doesn't do anything and you will probably knock our President when he does do something about North Korea being a threat to our national interest and South Korea and Japan and Guam's everyday living arrangement.

It's just a fear game so far ... if we push back then NK will act like they have won and strike a peace deal and continue to stock pile the weapons they need for an all out attack if provoked to do so. Fear and lies and is what they do best.

Take the dude out ... offer a price on his head and drop balloons of information on the lies of NK leader to it's citizens. Make fun of fat boy Kim with pictures and jokes to piss him off and get his people to laugh secretly too ... fight a dirty campaign war not a nuclear war.

What would a few million cell phones cost dropped in by air and set up towers out at sea to provide a way to communicate with the citizens of NK with meaningful dialog.

Don't we have an Army intelligence unit that could do this and save us the time and trouble of a war and what a war would cost. We would have to spend billions of dollars to fight and to provide disaster relieve afterwards anyway.
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Old 09-03-17, 10:13 AM   #395
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Fatboy giving 'field advice" on hydrogen bombs. I always wonder what everyone's actually writing in their little books?...who examines the little books? and what the penalty is for not taking good notes? http://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-40492702
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Nah, North Korea is off the menu now. The US has lost this one, it just hasn't realised it yet, or perhaps it just doesn't want to. Either way Kim Jong-un has achieved what he wanted to, a real deterrent to American actions, and he will never, ever give that up, not when he looks at what happened to the last person to trust America (Gaddafi).
So the US can either adapt to the new state of affairs, or it can start a nuclear war that will kill thousands if not millions. The choice is Donalds.

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Saw and heard a person from some Danish military academy Saying

NK haven't developed nukes/hydrogenbomb to use in an attack against other countries-They know very well what will happen if they do

No country with nukes has attacked another country with nukes
(when he said this-I said loudly-Hey..you forgot Pakistan and India)

If USA and SK does as mentioned, conduct a military strike on NK-The question will be-what next ?

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Old 09-03-17, 12:49 PM   #398
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If USA and SK does as mentioned, conduct a military strike on NK-The question will be-what next ?

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Pick a major city close to North Korea. It's gone.

Pick a random major city in the US, roll a dice, if it's higher than three, it's gone.

THAAD, AEGIS, GMD. Those are dice, if you're lucky they'll stop some missiles...if you're unlucky then they won't. Does America feel lucky enough to risk the destruction of major cities both at home and abroad? Does it really want to take that gamble?

Roll a dice, maybe you'll be lucky, maybe only a few hundred thousand will die, maybe you won't be lucky.
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As europe sits on its collective butt and complains.

As for this American I do feel lucky. Bring it on. We might lose a few But if the doctrines of old still apply I can assure you we will wipe of the face of the earth the one who fired it.
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As europe sits on its collective butt and complains.

As for this American I do feel lucky. Bring it on. We might lose a few But if the doctrines of old still apply I can assure you we will wipe of the face of the earth the one who fired it.
It is a win win for America really, you get to blow up a lot of people and in return you get the ultimate in reduced government and survivalist wet dreams. Especially if China gets involved and brings their arsenal to the fight (which they've said that they will if the US starts the fight).
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I'm diggin' that! missed ya man glad to see ya pop for a spell
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Pick a major city close to North Korea. It's gone.

Pick a random major city in the US, roll a dice, if it's higher than three, it's gone.

THAAD, AEGIS, GMD. Those are dice, if you're lucky they'll stop some missiles...if you're unlucky then they won't. Does America feel lucky enough to risk the destruction of major cities both at home and abroad? Does it really want to take that gamble?

Roll a dice, maybe you'll be lucky, maybe only a few hundred thousand will die, maybe you won't be lucky.
Thank you for your answer.

I know that these Air defense type of weapons is not
100 % reliable. I keep on telling this to my other friends, when they write stuff like-Their Patriot or their THAAD can easily take out NK's rocket

What the President in USA and the other guy in SK decide is something we can't do anything about, we can only hope the information Trump gets from his staff will make him take a well thought decision.

Maybe the information Trump gets from his ....security cabinet(forgot the real name for it) makes him think that these system is 100 % reliable. How knows

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Old 09-03-17, 03:34 PM   #403
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Pentagon chief James Mattis says any threat to the US or its allies by North Korea will be met with a "massive military response".
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-asia-41140621

Drop a ton of food with notes saying want more food over throw that fat bloated pig. That's a idea from a mate of mind, not sure if that idea would work.
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Drop a ton of food with notes saying want more food over throw that fat bloated pig. That's a idea from a mate of mind, not sure if that idea would work.
Maybe not. This could be the best answer to the problem. Do what is needed to start a civil war in NK.

Maybe bombing the civilians with tons of food and propaganda and what else they have to do to start this civil war.

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Another thing. Hearing all these different type of expert on Danish, Swedish and sometimes on German TV I get this picture inside of my head.

A mother is standing with his son(North Korea) and is defending him in front of his teacher(UN) So you accuse my son, what about this rascal(USA) over there and his gang(South Korea and Japan)

I get this feeling that these expert is trying to find a lot of excuses for NK's behaviour against their neighbours

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