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keltos01 · 08-25-09, 01:13 PM

I addressed an issue that's been bugging me for some time : the guns deck had only one top texture, it would then look transparent when seen from below, so I cloned the missing part.

keltos

Sledgehammer427 · 08-25-09, 01:26 PM

cool.
but in many pictures I have seen the torpedo tube doors are there, but not the square DOORS leading to the outside. I moved them to the center, kelt.
perhaps I misread All horizontal surfaces except wood decks must be painted so-and-so color, maybe the decks are supposed to be flat black too, I can fix it!
also, if you look at the picture you posted before hitman's post, you can see behind the torpedo tube doors that the faces are flipped.

gotta go, gotta pay a traffic ticket!

keltos01 · 08-25-09, 01:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sledgehammer427

cool.
but in many pictures I have seen the torpedo tube doors are there, but not the square DOORS leading to the outside. I moved them to the center, kelt.
perhaps I misread All horizontal surfaces except wood decks must be painted so-and-so color, maybe the decks are supposed to be flat black too, I can fix it!
also, if you look at the picture you posted before hitman's post, you can see behind the torpedo tube doors that the faces are flipped.

gotta go, gotta pay a traffic ticket!

I am making you a template texture right now, with the position of the metal deck under the guns platform, wait a bit, it's coming

keltos

keltos01 · 08-25-09, 02:11 PM

keltos01 · 08-25-09, 02:30 PM

metal deck under guns platform :

issues :

the darn torpedo doors shape : can't seem to get them to fit ok neither to animate them... grrrrr

[edit] added all your particle changes to the .dat Sledge

keltos

Hitman · 08-25-09, 03:26 PM

OK I just conducted a quick test using a new texture for the current wooden deck, replacing it with a dark wood and the result is WOW. The sub looks way better with it, you should change that texture as it is currently disguising the true proportions of the hull/deck/etc.

Where is the wooden deck texture for the guns platform? I have so far been able only to change the main deck, not the gun deck

Aside from that, the sub is really taking a good shape. There are missing polygons around the torpedo doors -which you already know- and also where the rudder joins the hull. The curvature of the bow could benefit from some smooting with additional polygons, and the stern is a bit irregular now (Looks like having been chewed in some places).

There are also some strange floating polygons on the front right side of the tower, may be a door frame?

Finally, the gun barrels could also have some more polygons to have a rounder shape. They are now a bit blocky.

Sledgehammer427 · 08-25-09, 04:24 PM

Hitman, the gun deck texture is in the Textures folder, the one pertaining to....uhhh, something involving guns_deck

the faces are flipped on the interior of the Conning tower, where the door leading to the deck is, I fixed it once, and it seemed to not want to work with the textures...humbug.

keltos01 · 08-25-09, 04:25 PM

OK I just conducted a quick test using a new texture for the current wooden deck, replacing it with a dark wood and the result is WOW. The sub looks way better with it, you should change that texture as it is currently disguising the true proportions of the hull/deck/etc.

ok, can you post a picture ? and maybe pm Sledgehammer with the texture details ? He's finishing the textures.

Where is the wooden deck texture for the guns platform? I have so far been able only to change the main deck, not the gun deck

in the texture\Tlowres\text and the other for normal textures

Aside from that, the sub is really taking a good shape. There are missing polygons around the torpedo doors -which you already know- and also where the rudder joins the hull. The curvature of the bow could benefit from some smooting with additional polygons, and the stern is a bit irregular now (Looks like having been chewed in some places).

I was hungry...

There are also some strange floating polygons on the front right side of the tower, may be a door frame?

will look it up ok ?

Finally, the gun barrels could also have some more polygons to have a rounder shape. They are now a bit blocky.

the model is round, but 3ds and SH4 don't show really similar results

keltos

Hitman · 08-25-09, 04:53 PM

Here is a picture. Please note that it is a rubbish texture, a work of 5 minutes to see how a darker deck would look in the game, just to get the idea ...

PD I'm having trouble to open some DDS files, so I simply cloned the low res one for the guns deck texture.

Hitman · 08-25-09, 04:59 PM

Here is an improved version. Playing a bit with the colours, it is possible to make a darker ship without losing much detail. The look is IMHO clearly superior to that with light brown deck.

ivank · 08-25-09, 07:52 PM

Looking great!

keltos01 · 08-25-09, 08:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hitman

Here is an improved version. Playing a bit with the colours, it is possible to make a darker ship without losing much detail. The look is IMHO clearly superior to that with light brown deck.

nice !

can you send that texture to SH427 ?

keltos

Sledgehammer427 · 08-25-09, 08:30 PM

ditto!

keltos01 · 08-26-09, 01:18 AM

a reminder as people don't look back at the earlier posts.... :

http://www.navsource.org/archives/08/08167b.htm

Although the placks aren't that dark, they are a shade darker than the ones I put on at first and Sledge placed after that.

also : lighter deck is better than a dark one when seen from above (plane), this isn't the Atlantic Ocean

notice the "168" on the prow of the Nautilus in metal numbers.

rivets : double line to reinforce the plate's edges. notice how the plate size increases between the platforms.

need an exhaust hole under the rear external torpedoes (back of the rear platform) and a pump exhaust hole.

a foothole ladder on the hull between the 2 platforms

two boats holes on the foredeck

keltos

Sledgehammer427 · 08-26-09, 01:29 AM

yup.
which is why I basically left them alone

08-25-09, 01:13 PM	#391
keltos01 Silent Hunter Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Milan Italy Posts: 4,999 Downloads: 114 Uploads: 18	I addressed an issue that's been bugging me for some time : the guns deck had only one top texture, it would then look transparent when seen from below, so I cloned the missing part. keltos __________________ "Honorable Builder of Sinking Ships"

08-25-09, 01:26 PM	#392
Sledgehammer427 PacWagon Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Drinking coffee and staring at trees in Massachusetts Posts: 2,908 Downloads: 287 Uploads: 0	cool. but in many pictures I have seen the torpedo tube doors are there, but not the square DOORS leading to the outside. I moved them to the center, kelt. perhaps I misread All horizontal surfaces except wood decks must be painted so-and-so color, maybe the decks are supposed to be flat black too, I can fix it! also, if you look at the picture you posted before hitman's post, you can see behind the torpedo tube doors that the faces are flipped. gotta go, gotta pay a traffic ticket! __________________ Cold Waters Voice Crew - Fire Control Officer Cmdr O. Myers - C/O USS Nautilus (SS-168) 114,000 tons sunk - 4 Spec Ops completed V-boat Nutcase - Need supplies? Japanese garrison on a small island in the way? Just give us a call! D4C!

08-25-09, 02:11 PM	#394
keltos01 Silent Hunter Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Milan Italy Posts: 4,999 Downloads: 114 Uploads: 18	metal under guns deck __________________ "Honorable Builder of Sinking Ships"

08-25-09, 02:30 PM	#395
keltos01 Silent Hunter Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Milan Italy Posts: 4,999 Downloads: 114 Uploads: 18	metal deck under guns platform : issues : the darn torpedo doors shape : can't seem to get them to fit ok neither to animate them... grrrrr [edit] added all your particle changes to the .dat Sledge keltos __________________ "Honorable Builder of Sinking Ships" Last edited by keltos01; 08-25-09 at 03:17 PM.

08-25-09, 03:26 PM	#396
Hitman Pacific Aces Dev Team Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Spain Posts: 6,109 Downloads: 109 Uploads: 2	OK I just conducted a quick test using a new texture for the current wooden deck, replacing it with a dark wood and the result is WOW. The sub looks way better with it, you should change that texture as it is currently disguising the true proportions of the hull/deck/etc. Where is the wooden deck texture for the guns platform? I have so far been able only to change the main deck, not the gun deck Aside from that, the sub is really taking a good shape. There are missing polygons around the torpedo doors -which you already know- and also where the rudder joins the hull. The curvature of the bow could benefit from some smooting with additional polygons, and the stern is a bit irregular now (Looks like having been chewed in some places). There are also some strange floating polygons on the front right side of the tower, may be a door frame? Finally, the gun barrels could also have some more polygons to have a rounder shape. They are now a bit blocky. __________________ One day I will return to sea ...

08-25-09, 04:24 PM	#397
Sledgehammer427 PacWagon Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Drinking coffee and staring at trees in Massachusetts Posts: 2,908 Downloads: 287 Uploads: 0	Hitman, the gun deck texture is in the Textures folder, the one pertaining to....uhhh, something involving guns_deck the faces are flipped on the interior of the Conning tower, where the door leading to the deck is, I fixed it once, and it seemed to not want to work with the textures...humbug. __________________ Cold Waters Voice Crew - Fire Control Officer Cmdr O. Myers - C/O USS Nautilus (SS-168) 114,000 tons sunk - 4 Spec Ops completed V-boat Nutcase - Need supplies? Japanese garrison on a small island in the way? Just give us a call! D4C!

08-25-09, 04:25 PM	#398
keltos01 Silent Hunter Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Milan Italy Posts: 4,999 Downloads: 114 Uploads: 18	textures etc.. OK I just conducted a quick test using a new texture for the current wooden deck, replacing it with a dark wood and the result is WOW. The sub looks way better with it, you should change that texture as it is currently disguising the true proportions of the hull/deck/etc. ok, can you post a picture ? and maybe pm Sledgehammer with the texture details ? He's finishing the textures. Where is the wooden deck texture for the guns platform? I have so far been able only to change the main deck, not the gun deck in the texture\Tlowres\text and the other for normal textures Aside from that, the sub is really taking a good shape. There are missing polygons around the torpedo doors -which you already know- and also where the rudder joins the hull. The curvature of the bow could benefit from some smooting with additional polygons, and the stern is a bit irregular now (Looks like having been chewed in some places). I was hungry... There are also some strange floating polygons on the front right side of the tower, may be a door frame? will look it up ok ? Finally, the gun barrels could also have some more polygons to have a rounder shape. They are now a bit blocky. the model is round, but 3ds and SH4 don't show really similar results keltos __________________ "Honorable Builder of Sinking Ships"

08-25-09, 04:53 PM	#399
Hitman Pacific Aces Dev Team Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Spain Posts: 6,109 Downloads: 109 Uploads: 2	Here is a picture. Please note that it is a rubbish texture, a work of 5 minutes to see how a darker deck would look in the game, just to get the idea ... PD I'm having trouble to open some DDS files, so I simply cloned the low res one for the guns deck texture. __________________ One day I will return to sea ...

08-25-09, 04:59 PM	#400
Hitman Pacific Aces Dev Team Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Spain Posts: 6,109 Downloads: 109 Uploads: 2	Here is an improved version. Playing a bit with the colours, it is possible to make a darker ship without losing much detail. The look is IMHO clearly superior to that with light brown deck. __________________ One day I will return to sea ...

08-25-09, 07:52 PM	#401
ivank The Old Man Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Huntington, Long Island, New York Posts: 1,426 Downloads: 284 Uploads: 0	Looking great! __________________ Head of The Surface Warfare Super-Mod Team Leutnant z. S. David U. Ziegler U-105 IXB On Patrol 1

08-25-09, 08:30 PM	#403
Sledgehammer427 PacWagon Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Drinking coffee and staring at trees in Massachusetts Posts: 2,908 Downloads: 287 Uploads: 0	ditto! __________________ Cold Waters Voice Crew - Fire Control Officer Cmdr O. Myers - C/O USS Nautilus (SS-168) 114,000 tons sunk - 4 Spec Ops completed V-boat Nutcase - Need supplies? Japanese garrison on a small island in the way? Just give us a call! D4C!

08-26-09, 01:18 AM	#404
keltos01 Silent Hunter Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Milan Italy Posts: 4,999 Downloads: 114 Uploads: 18	Reminder... a reminder as people don't look back at the earlier posts.... : http://www.navsource.org/archives/08/08167b.htm Although the placks aren't that dark, they are a shade darker than the ones I put on at first and Sledge placed after that. also : lighter deck is better than a dark one when seen from above (plane), this isn't the Atlantic Ocean notice the "168" on the prow of the Nautilus in metal numbers. rivets : double line to reinforce the plate's edges. notice how the plate size increases between the platforms. need an exhaust hole under the rear external torpedoes (back of the rear platform) and a pump exhaust hole. a foothole ladder on the hull between the 2 platforms two boats holes on the foredeck keltos __________________ "Honorable Builder of Sinking Ships" Last edited by keltos01; 08-26-09 at 02:30 AM.

08-26-09, 01:29 AM	#405
Sledgehammer427 PacWagon Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Drinking coffee and staring at trees in Massachusetts Posts: 2,908 Downloads: 287 Uploads: 0	yup. which is why I basically left them alone __________________ Cold Waters Voice Crew - Fire Control Officer Cmdr O. Myers - C/O USS Nautilus (SS-168) 114,000 tons sunk - 4 Spec Ops completed V-boat Nutcase - Need supplies? Japanese garrison on a small island in the way? Just give us a call! D4C!