[REL] Fall of the Rising Sun Ultimate, full release - Page 26

Tuesday · 01-23-20, 07:09 AM

Ahoy!

Thank you and congratulations on creating such an immersive experience with Fall of the Rising Sun Ultimate. Its the year 2020 and SH4 is still a great game after all these year because of the tremendous and passionate efforts of individuals like the one's who worked on this supermod.

Now with that being said a quick question:

What is the philosophy and ideas behind the ASW efforts in Fall of the Rising Sun? I know I am a sneaky Bastard, but after attacking two convoys that were well protected by escorts, not a single one dropped a depth charge. I did get some active pings looking for me but I did manage to find a thermal layer & rig for silent running for my escapes.

I started my career on Dec 8th so its very early in the war and I am thinking the Japanese are both inexperienced and not well equipped with dealing with American submarines.

merc4ulfate · 01-23-20, 10:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Tuesday

Ahoy!

Thank you and congratulations on creating such an immersive experience with Fall of the Rising Sun Ultimate. Its the year 2020 and SH4 is still a great game after all these year because of the tremendous and passionate efforts of individuals like the one's who worked on this supermod.

Now with that being said a quick question:

What is the philosophy and ideas behind the ASW efforts in Fall of the Rising Sun? I know I am a sneaky Bastard, but after attacking two convoys that were well protected by escorts, not a single one dropped a depth charge. I did get some active pings looking for me but I did manage to find a thermal layer & rig for silent running for my escapes.

I started my career on Dec 8th so its very early in the war and I am thinking the Japanese are both inexperienced and not well equipped with dealing with American submarines.

FOTRSU ASW AI's are modeled so it mimics historical efforts by the Japanese. The IJN did not put a lot of effort in early war ASW. They never even hit the sub pens at Pearl that is how insignificant they considered submarine warfare in ww2.

Things will get, less easy and from what I have been told the next installment will have a bit harder AI ASW while still trying to mimic it historically speaking. I am looking forward to harder harbor raiding.

merc4ulfate · 01-24-20, 01:01 AM

Doing some test on mines and subnets. If you are careful there are some spots you can crawl under nets. If you are careful. You modders did a nice job with the net and mine placements.

Kongo Otto · 01-24-20, 07:56 PM

I just upgraded from a S-class boat to a Salmon class boat but there is no SJ-Surface search radar available in the upgrade options screen. Brisbane in September 1942 right now, shouldn't there be SJ set available by now?

propbeanie · 01-24-20, 10:10 PM

SJ Radar - speaking from the "system" point of view - is available June 1st, 1942 on the Salmon / Sargo (as well as others). However, the outlying locations often get the new gear later, and that part can be unpredictable. Had you gotten it on the S-Boat prior to the upgrade? btw, There is a "SubmarineAndEquipmentAvailabilityChart.pdf" file in the Support folder of the mod / game, which is improved for the next version (though already out of date)

sigh

Kongo Otto · 01-25-20, 04:25 AM

Hi propbeanie.
No, I haven't got the SJ Upgrade for the S-class boat, all I got for that class was the 20mm Oerlikon single barrel and the improved SD Radar upgrade. Also I got the changed turret for the S-class boat to fit the 20mm Oerlikon.

I have saved before entering the base, I will reload the save and dismiss the new boat and check if I get the SJ-Radar for the pig-boat.

Edit: I reloaded the save and there also was no SJ Radar available for the s-class boat, I was offered an upgrade to the 4in/50cal deck gun tho.

vossejongk · 01-25-20, 05:32 AM

Installed vanilla game and then this mod through JSGME, nothing else. Vanilla game starts fine, but with this mod i get a crap ton of popups saying x file could not be loaded. Loading bar when the game starts is stuck at 99/100%, won't go to menu ether.

Edit: nvm figured it out

Aktungbby · 01-25-20, 11:08 AM

vossejongk!

propbeanie · 01-25-20, 03:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kongo Otto

Hi propbeanie.
No, I haven't got the SJ Upgrade for the S-class boat, all I got for that class was the 20mm Oerlikon single barrel and the improved SD Radar upgrade. Also I got the changed turret for the S-class boat to fit the 20mm Oerlikon.

I have saved before entering the base, I will reload the save and dismiss the new boat and check if I get the SJ-Radar for the pig-boat.

Edit: I reloaded the save and there also was no SJ Radar available for the s-class boat, I was offered an upgrade to the 4in/50cal deck gun tho.

'Magine that... the gun is available on 08-01-1942, with the SJ on 06-01-1942, and the Improved SD isn't supposed to show until 03-12-1943...

- May-haps you got the SJ confused with the SD?? Have you tried using the <Alt><T> key combo to turn on the SJ radar?

Quote:

Originally Posted by vossejongk

Installed vanilla game and then this mod through JSGME, nothing else. Vanilla game starts fine, but with this mod i get a crap ton of popups saying x file could not be loaded. Loading bar when the game starts is stuck at 99/100%, won't go to menu ether.

Edit: nvm figured it out

Yes, that is the usual error message you get when you are attempting to activate on an SH4 version that is not v1.5 with the Uboats add-on. I don't know if you've seen this or not, but here in the US, Steam is having another sale, "Lunar New Year Sale", and SH4 is like $3.39 US a copy, but you do need to get the "Uboats Addon" also at $3.39 a copy, or get their "Silent Hunter Collection" with SH3, SH4, Uboats Addon, and SH5 for $13.59. While their version is not as flexible as a disk or Amazon (or similar) copy, it is definitely better than the Ubisoft UPlay version, which is heavily UAC "protected".

s7rikeback · 01-25-20, 07:28 PM

May I present to you, two newly upgraded Ship models.

We have been given permission from the VonDos & Co" shipyard! to use these units, to upgrade the earlier models we have in game from AOTD_MadMax & UBOAT234.

1# NTUS_= The Old 3 funnels ocean liner

2# NPPQ = RMS Queen Mary in Cunard and GrayWar Colors

We would like to thank our friend VonDos for his very fine work, and his kindness in giving us permissions to use his work here in FotRSU.

Wolfcat · 01-25-20, 09:45 PM

Sorry about my ignorance. I don’t quite understand the installation process of FORS on the 1st post. So I just unzip everything into mod folder and activate with jsgm?

propbeanie · 01-25-20, 10:20 PM

Basically "yes", Wolfcat. However, most folks who have trouble run afoul of either failing to empty their Save folder, or have Silent Hunter installed in a Windows "Program Files" directory (folder), which will not allow any modding. The game has to be in a folder you created yourself that is outside of the Program Files folders. I will mention again that there is a file "01_FotRSU_Support_TOC.bat" in the root of the mod, which will start the "01_FotRSU_TableOfContents.pdf", which has links to quite a few other pdf documents with help files.

Wolfcat · 01-26-20, 03:31 AM

My periscope is too big. The top and bottom 1/4 gets cut off by the screen. Any mod to scale the periscope to fit my screen?

Kongo Otto · 01-26-20, 04:49 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by propbeanie

'Magine that... the gun is available on 08-01-1942, with the SJ on 06-01-1942, and the Improved SD isn't supposed to show until 03-12-1943...

- May-haps you got the SJ confused with the SD?? Have you tried using the <Alt><T> key combo to turn on the SJ radar?

Can rule that out, no SJ radar available in port.
Please take a look here:

01-26-20, 06:59 AM

I transversed an area (approx 200nm x 200nm) twice, in late March & early April, 1942 on the way to and from Japan, that's in the middle of the Pacific Ocean that has considerably heavy Japanese north & south air traffic.

General location is just north of 160-degrees east and 30-degrees north in the middle of the Pacific. The area is located north of Wake Island and 625nm northeast of Marcus Island, the nearest land mass.

Does the heavy aircraft traffic at these dates correspond to any known battles near this location? Just curious.

01-24-20, 01:01 AM	#378
merc4ulfate DILLIGAF Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: florida Posts: 2,058 Downloads: 210 Uploads: 0	Doing some test on mines and subnets. If you are careful there are some spots you can crawl under nets. If you are careful. You modders did a nice job with the net and mine placements. __________________ Self-education is, I firmly believe, the only kind of education there is. ~Isaac Asimov~ Mercfulfate 将補日本帝國海軍

01-24-20, 10:10 PM	#380
propbeanie CTD - it's not just a job Join Date: May 2016 Location: One hour from Music City USA! Posts: 10,121 Downloads: 452 Uploads: 4	SJ Radar - speaking from the "system" point of view - is available June 1st, 1942 on the Salmon / Sargo (as well as others). However, the outlying locations often get the new gear later, and that part can be unpredictable. Had you gotten it on the S-Boat prior to the upgrade? btw, There is a "SubmarineAndEquipmentAvailabilityChart.pdf" file in the Support folder of the mod / game, which is improved for the next version (though already out of date) sigh __________________ "...and bollocks to the naysayers" - Jimbuna

01-25-20, 04:25 AM	#381
Kongo Otto Commodore Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Augsburg / Germany Posts: 631 Downloads: 203 Uploads: 0	Hi propbeanie. No, I haven't got the SJ Upgrade for the S-class boat, all I got for that class was the 20mm Oerlikon single barrel and the improved SD Radar upgrade. Also I got the changed turret for the S-class boat to fit the 20mm Oerlikon. I have saved before entering the base, I will reload the save and dismiss the new boat and check if I get the SJ-Radar for the pig-boat. Edit: I reloaded the save and there also was no SJ Radar available for the s-class boat, I was offered an upgrade to the 4in/50cal deck gun tho. Last edited by Kongo Otto; 01-25-20 at 04:37 AM.

01-25-20, 05:32 AM	#382
vossejongk Bilge Rat Join Date: Jan 2017 Posts: 1 Downloads: 10 Uploads: 0	Installed vanilla game and then this mod through JSGME, nothing else. Vanilla game starts fine, but with this mod i get a crap ton of popups saying x file could not be loaded. Loading bar when the game starts is stuck at 99/100%, won't go to menu ether. Edit: nvm figured it out Last edited by vossejongk; 01-25-20 at 07:17 AM.

01-25-20, 11:08 AM	#383
Aktungbby Gefallen Engel U-666 Join Date: Jul 2013 Location: On a tilted, overheated, overpopulated spinning mudball on Collision course with Andromeda Galaxy Posts: 30,110 Downloads: 24 Uploads: 0	welcome aboard! vossejongk! __________________ "Only two things are infinite; The Universe and human squirrelyness?!!

01-23-20, 07:09 AM	#376
Tuesday Swabbie Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Melbourne FL Posts: 6 Downloads: 14 Uploads: 0	Ahoy! Thank you and congratulations on creating such an immersive experience with Fall of the Rising Sun Ultimate. Its the year 2020 and SH4 is still a great game after all these year because of the tremendous and passionate efforts of individuals like the one's who worked on this supermod. Now with that being said a quick question: What is the philosophy and ideas behind the ASW efforts in Fall of the Rising Sun? I know I am a sneaky Bastard, but after attacking two convoys that were well protected by escorts, not a single one dropped a depth charge. I did get some active pings looking for me but I did manage to find a thermal layer & rig for silent running for my escapes. I started my career on Dec 8th so its very early in the war and I am thinking the Japanese are both inexperienced and not well equipped with dealing with American submarines.

01-24-20, 07:56 PM	#379
Kongo Otto Commodore Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Augsburg / Germany Posts: 631 Downloads: 203 Uploads: 0	I just upgraded from a S-class boat to a Salmon class boat but there is no SJ-Surface search radar available in the upgrade options screen. Brisbane in September 1942 right now, shouldn't there be SJ set available by now?

01-25-20, 07:28 PM	#385
s7rikeback I break things Join Date: Jan 2013 Location: Merry Old England Posts: 782 Downloads: 1154 Uploads: 10	May I present to you, two newly upgraded Ship models. We have been given permission from the VonDos & Co" shipyard! to use these units, to upgrade the earlier models we have in game from AOTD_MadMax & UBOAT234. 1# NTUS_= The Old 3 funnels ocean liner 2# NPPQ = RMS Queen Mary in Cunard and GrayWar Colors We would like to thank our friend VonDos for his very fine work, and his kindness in giving us permissions to use his work here in FotRSU. __________________

01-25-20, 09:45 PM	#386
Wolfcat Chief Join Date: Nov 2012 Posts: 326 Downloads: 27 Uploads: 0	Sorry about my ignorance. I don’t quite understand the installation process of FORS on the 1st post. So I just unzip everything into mod folder and activate with jsgm?

01-25-20, 10:20 PM	#387
propbeanie CTD - it's not just a job Join Date: May 2016 Location: One hour from Music City USA! Posts: 10,121 Downloads: 452 Uploads: 4	Basically "yes", Wolfcat. However, most folks who have trouble run afoul of either failing to empty their Save folder, or have Silent Hunter installed in a Windows "Program Files" directory (folder), which will not allow any modding. The game has to be in a folder you created yourself that is outside of the Program Files folders. I will mention again that there is a file "01_FotRSU_Support_TOC.bat" in the root of the mod, which will start the "01_FotRSU_TableOfContents.pdf", which has links to quite a few other pdf documents with help files. __________________ "...and bollocks to the naysayers" - Jimbuna

01-26-20, 03:31 AM	#388
Wolfcat Chief Join Date: Nov 2012 Posts: 326 Downloads: 27 Uploads: 0	My periscope is too big. The top and bottom 1/4 gets cut off by the screen. Any mod to scale the periscope to fit my screen?

01-26-20, 06:59 AM	#390
von Zelda Stowaway Posts: n/a Downloads: Uploads:	An area of heavy aircraft traffic in the mid Pacific? I transversed an area (approx 200nm x 200nm) twice, in late March & early April, 1942 on the way to and from Japan, that's in the middle of the Pacific Ocean that has considerably heavy Japanese north & south air traffic. General location is just north of 160-degrees east and 30-degrees north in the middle of the Pacific. The area is located north of Wake Island and 625nm northeast of Marcus Island, the nearest land mass. Does the heavy aircraft traffic at these dates correspond to any known battles near this location? Just curious.