[REL] Open Horizons II

[mendesjpcrs]

Originally Posted by gap

Hi Trevallly,

I've prepared a scheme resuming the info on German replenishments in Spanish ports previously posted by me, and proposing a possible availability pattern within OHII campaigns. Here it is:

Location: Ferrol
Date range: Jun 40 - Sep 42
Campaigns / Objectives:

• Coastal Waters / South Western Approaches (Jan - Jun 40)
• Operation Drumbeat (Dec 41 - Sep 42)

Location: Vigo
Date range: Jun 40 - Dec 41
Campaigns / Objectives:

• Happy Times (Jun 40 - Mar 41)
• Western Approaches / British Supplies (Mar - Dec 41)
• Western Approaches / Gibraltar Supply Route (Mar - Dec 41)
• Western Approaches / Winston's Special (Mar - Dec 41)
• Mare Nostrum / Breakthrough Gibraltar (Mar - Sep 41)

Location: Cadiz
Date range: Jan 40 - Nov 41
Campaigns / Objectives:

• Coastal Waters / South Western Approaches (Jan - Jun 40)
• Western Approaches / Gibraltar Supply Route (Mar - Dec 41)
• Mare Nostrum / Breakthrough Gibraltar (Mar - Sep 41)

Location: Las Palmas
Date range: Mar - Jul 41
Campaigns / Objectives:

• Western Approaches / Winston's Special (Mar - Dec 41)
• Western Approaches / Central Atlantic Supplies (Apr - Nov 41)
• Western Approaches / South Atlantic Convoys (Apr - Nov 41)

I've done my best to match in game base locations, patrol areas, objective dates, refitting ports, etc, with the data available on historical U-boat patrols that required a refuelling in a spanish port. Nevertheless, I am sure that given your deep knolwledge of OHII campaign, there is space for improvements from your parts. What do you think?

I have one last question: do you think that the refitting from an anchored unit will be possible?

That Would be Awesome!!

[gap]

Originally Posted by Adriatico

Hmmm... In South Atlantic Convoys part of Western Approaches... basically there are no convoys ?

I spent days patroling that large map, picking a small ship or two... It will take ages to reach needed tons... for the first time I feel a bit bored with SH5...
I think that "neded tons" should be decreased for South Atlantic Convoys.

If you have work and family obligations... you don't have days and days to patrol almost empty ocean.

"South Atlantic" is too a generic indication. Have you considered that you might be patrolling an area too far from the most common shipping lanes? Personally, I think that finding the "right spots" is part of the fun. Capes, straights and the approaches to the major ports are normally good hunting areas.

Originally Posted by mendesjpcrs

That Would be Awesome!!

That is awesome

[gap]

@ Adriatico

Look at this map:



I think that OHII reproduces historical Atlantic convoy routes fairly accurately

[jsheikh]

Hi everyone!

First things first: This is an awesome mod!

I'm having trouble with the campaign objectives: I.e. I'm achieving them but they're not getting updated as 'achieved' (no filled grey crosses). E.g. for my 2nd patrol, I chose the coastal operations goal. When the patrol started I could also see the 'breaking the fortress' goal available and decided to pursue it first. I snuck into Scapa Flow and torpedoed HMS Royal Sovereign (Or a sistership), and sank it. The goal remains unfulfilled.

Please advise.

[volodya61]

Disable ALL the patches for Advanced Users!

[jsheikh]

Originally Posted by volodya61

Disable ALL the patches for Advanced Users!

I already did. I'm assuming you meant the 'Enable game messages to be displayed in game' patch

[volodya61]

Originally Posted by jsheikh

I already did. I'm assuming you meant the 'Enable game messages to be displayed in game' patch

What version of the Patcher do you use? If you use old version disable all Orbit Listener patches..

[jsheikh]

Originally Posted by volodya61

What version of the Patcher do you use? If you use old version disable all Orbit Listener patches..

v 1.0.128.0

I have them disabled already. Damn just noticed that I had the 'Disables Uplay browser' patch activated. Is that causing the issue?

[volodya61]

Originally Posted by jsheikh

v 1.0.128.0

I have them disabled already. Damn just noticed that I had the 'Disables Uplay browser' patch activated. Is that causing the issue?

YES!!!

When you disabling something do you ever read any notes or description for this???

[jsheikh]

Originally Posted by volodya61

YES!!!

When you disabling something do you ever read any notes or description for this???

Sorry, I didn't mean to frustrate you man

Originally Posted by gap  View Post
Hi Trevallly,

I've prepared a scheme resuming the info on German replenishments in Spanish ports previously posted by me, and proposing a possible availability pattern within OHII campaigns. Here it is:

Location: Ferrol
Date range: Jun 40 - Sep 42
Campaigns / Objectives:
Coastal Waters / South Western Approaches (Jan - Jun 40)
Operation Drumbeat (Dec 41 - Sep 42)

Location: Vigo
Date range: Jun 40 - Dec 41
Campaigns / Objectives:
Happy Times (Jun 40 - Mar 41)
Western Approaches / British Supplies (Mar - Dec 41)
Western Approaches / Gibraltar Supply Route (Mar - Dec 41)
Western Approaches / Winston's Special (Mar - Dec 41)
Mare Nostrum / Breakthrough Gibraltar (Mar - Sep 41)

Location: Cadiz
Date range: Jan 40 - Nov 41
Campaigns / Objectives:
Coastal Waters / South Western Approaches (Jan - Jun 40)
Western Approaches / Gibraltar Supply Route (Mar - Dec 41)
Mare Nostrum / Breakthrough Gibraltar (Mar - Sep 41)

Location: Las Palmas
Date range: Mar - Jul 41
Campaigns / Objectives:
Western Approaches / Winston's Special (Mar - Dec 41)
Western Approaches / Central Atlantic Supplies (Apr - Nov 41)
Western Approaches / South Atlantic Convoys (Apr - Nov 41)

I've done my best to match in game base locations, patrol areas, objective dates, refitting ports, etc, with the data available on historical U-boat patrols that required a refuelling in a spanish port. Nevertheless, I am sure that given your deep knolwledge of OHII campaign, there is space for improvements from your parts. What do you think?

I have one last question: do you think that the refitting from an anchored unit will be possible?

Hi Trevally and Gap
Looks amazing!

1)I would like to say about the mission at Scapa Flow .... It is necessary to complicate the mission!
In the southern Strait need more ground mines that the player came at night and only on the surface! This will repeat the action Gunther Prien!
2)Operation Weserübung (capture of Norway) .... Really miss action in the fjords in Narvik and Trondheim! Erich Topp said: "Everything was much more difficult than we expected! Narrow fjords, shallow water, fog and a lot of faulty torpedoes"

From Russia with love!

P.S. Very interesting link, but in Russian language!
Code: "Hartmut"
http://navycollection.narod.ru/battl...ut/hartmut.htm

[gap]

Originally Posted by Captain73

2)Operation Weserübung (capture of Norway) .... Really miss action in the fjords in Narvik and Trondheim! Erich Topp said: "Everything was much more difficult than we expected! Narrow fjords, shallow water...

Are SH5 fjords not narrow/shallow enough? If needed, they can be made narrower and shallower using Terrain Editor, but beyond a certain limit destroyers start acting in a weird way

Originally Posted by Captain73

...fog...

In this game, fog shouldn't be a big problem really

Originally Posted by Captain73

...and a lot of faulty torpedoes"

We are waiting for Rongel's update of his realistic torpedo failure mod which will make early magnetic torpedoes much lesser reliable thn they are now.

Anyway, IIRC magnetic torpedo failure rates recorded during operation Weserubung were considerably higher than average due to the vicinity of the magnetic North and/or to magnetic field irregularities caused by the fjords themselves. I doubt this can be simulated in game.

Originally Posted by Captain73

P.S. Very interesting link, but in Russian language!
Code: "Hartmut"
http://navycollection.narod.ru/battl...ut/hartmut.htm

The wikipedia article on Operation Hartmut is extremely well done also, and it lists all the U-boat groups involved, with group duties and individual notes on the usccess achieved by each unit. Would be nice being assigned to a group or another each time we play again the objective. Maybe one day we will have Ubootwaffe and Allied orders of battles for Op. Weserubung implemented in OHII. When I discussed the topic with Trevally, he seemed quite positive on this point

[volodya61]

Originally Posted by gap

..We are waiting for Rongel's update of his realistic torpedo failure mod which will make early magnetic torpedoes much lesser reliable thn they are now...

As I remember, when I was testing torpedoes failure patches there were a lot dud/premature/circle runner torpedoes .. and if torpedoes patches and failure torpedoes fix are enabled it's enough good result for use it right now..

[gap]

Originally Posted by volodya61

As I remember, when I was testing torpedoes failure patches there were a lot dud/premature/circle runner torpedoes .. and if torpedoes patches and failure torpedoes fix are enabled it's enough good result for use it right now..

[Frankovich213]

Thankyou for this awesome mod! The only problem I've noticed is now my time compression lags when I go above 128x near land.
Before I added the mod, time compression worked fine, my computer is really good so it can't be that. Anyway if anybody has any info on this, let me know please.
Thanks again.