Here we go again-Ukraine once again

[August]

Originally Posted by Buddahaid

Putin is the one leading the world into nuclear war, the one violating agreements, the one attacking another sovereign state with imperialistic goals. We all know appeasment doesn't work.

Agree 100%.

[Skybird]

Originally Posted by mapuc

Well if former NATO leader is correct

as ex-Nato chief warns Russia could declare 'all-out war' in days

Then we must ask our self is it all-out war in Ukraine or against West(NATO) ?

https://www.subsim.com/radioroom/sho...postcount=3529


In nine days we may know more what they are up to. Personally I prefer if we would prepare for the worst. The laguage games the Russians play, Lavrov saying the exact opposite of what is claimed back in Moscow, are an indication, by empirical experience, that they indeed will escalate. Lavrov's only purpose and job is to mislead the West.

[mapuc]

Originally Posted by Skybird

https://www.subsim.com/radioroom/sho...postcount=3529

I've read it and forgot about it

From your post

"Several experts believe that Vladimir Putin is not targeting a major victory for May 9, but is planning a major mobilization.
According to war analysts, Russia has realized that a quick victory in eastern and southern Ukraine is not possible. Instead, there is to be a major offensive in the summer.
The rhetoric in Russia is changing. The conflict with Ukraine is now becoming a conflict with NATO. The Russians are planning for a longer war. "

Well if true then he are going all in, in Ukraine.

Markus

[Dargo]

Originally Posted by mapuc

I've read it and forgot about it

From your post

"Several experts believe that Vladimir Putin is not targeting a major victory for May 9, but is planning a major mobilization.
According to war analysts, Russia has realized that a quick victory in eastern and southern Ukraine is not possible. Instead, there is to be a major offensive in the summer.
The rhetoric in Russia is changing. The conflict with Ukraine is now becoming a conflict with NATO. The Russians are planning for a longer war. "

Well if true then he are going all in, in Ukraine.

Markus

When Russia went into Chechnya, Georgia we did nothing in Syria US have troops Russia never biaatch about that. Russia will not declare war on NATO, it will face a modern army that they are clearly not. NATO has every right to support Ukraine, Russia nuclear threat is only a threat Russia use bluff for +70 years on a large scale in a masterly fashion, they employ it with particular skill everything is secret. Just try to find out what is true & what is not.

[mapuc]

The war studies visiting fellow at King's College London says: "Basically the Russians are gonna run out of troops, and the Ukrainians are going to counterattack."

The Russians have squandered their one chance to take the region, he believes.

"They pulled all of these mauled units out of Kyiv, and then tried to reconstitute them for combat in the east," he explains.

https://www.bbc.com/news/live/world-...-NQIESA11uywvw

Markus

[Skybird]

Its worth to not forget that they may run out of those troops that they had activated for the Ukraine short holiday adventure - but that these numericallly are not all what the Red Army can show off with.



So far they do this war with a LIMITED mobilization of their forces. And that may change on May 9th.Putin stands with his back against the wall. His own top generals demand that the war goals are widened and the limited scope of the Ukraine war is being given up. Politically he must pose as a victor, and needs a "success", fake or not. The oligarchs have become a danger, why he has started to assassinate some of them. And in Putin's view of the world, NATO already is at war with Russia more or less since the USSR collapsed.

Its a repeated pattern with Putin. He escalates. Thats his character. In his thinking, showing signs that could be interpreted as weakness looses. Russia will reorient itself for a longer war, and for this it needs to activate more of its military potential.


I do not expect anything good on May 9th. At best we get more of just the same.


And he is old. What has he to lose? Nothing. Fear the old men, they have nothign to lose.

[Reece]

Originally Posted by Skybird

And he is old. What has he to lose? Nothing. Fear the old men, they have nothign to lose.

except their souls!!

[Dargo]

Originally Posted by Skybird

Its worth to not forget that they may run out of those troops that they had activated for the Ukraine short holiday adventure - but that these numericallly are not all what the Red Army can show off with.



So far they do this war with a LIMITED mobilization of their forces. And that may change on May 9th.Putin stands with his back against the wall. His own top generals demand that the war goals are widened and the limited scope of the Ukraine war is being given up. Politically he must pose as a victor, and needs a "success", fake or not. The oligarchs have become a danger, why he has started to assassinate some of them. And in Putin's view of the world, NATO already is at war with Russia more or less since the USSR collapsed.

Its a repeated pattern with Putin. He escalates. Thats his character. In his thinking, showing signs that could be interpreted as weakness looses. Russia will reorient itself for a longer war, and for this it needs to activate more of its military potential.


I do not expect anything good on May 9th. At best we get more of just the same.


And he is old. What has he to lose? Nothing. Fear the old men, they have nothign to lose.

If Russia goes this is war it will take months to mobilize,that time gives Ukraine time to learn the new equipment hope they can defend themselves, but this will be a long war.

[Kptlt. Neuerburg]

Originally Posted by Reece

except their souls!!

I dunno if anyone who worked for an organization like KGB had souls.

[tmccarthy]

[tmccarthy]

[em2nought]

If we surrender now do we get Putin instead of Biden?

[Gorpet]

Originally Posted by Reece

except their souls!!

And neither doe's the old rocking roll souls of the skeletons. That tell you you have to buy Electric why they burn the bones of the past.

[Gorpet]

Yes, The best brains that have graduated from our University's believe that We the American's have developed the best Socialist and Communal way of living that has ever been consivied.And if your Government's follow's the American plan you will never have to worry about nothing and you will be Happy. And you can save the Planet. And if those Horrible Russian people have to die, you know hey it's all about progressivisms and we here in America will do our Best, We will have and will always have The Brit's and The Lymie's Follow not their path but the American path. Don't believe me, How many of your children hate their color and past of their families, And want to get to America The Land of True Equality, Love and Harmony. WE detest any Socialist and Communal way of living other than American belief's and Standard's.

[Skybird]

According to a report by the German ministry of economy, over the duration of the war so far the German dependence on Russian oil has been reduced from around 35 percent last year to now 12 percent, and dependence on Russian gas from 55 percent before the war broke out to around 35 percent now. In the case of coal, dependence has fallen from 50 percent to around 8 percent since the beginning of the year as a result of contract conversions.

Thats undeniably progress, if true.

Oil is not that big a problem and already wa snot before the war, since the world market holds sufficient alternative offers (at higher costs, though). Its mainly about gas as a production ressource.


No word on metals and ores, petrochemical products (fertilizer, chemical catalysts for heavy industry processing), and grains. Germany is autark regarding wheat, but needs fertilizers of course (and for thos eit produces itself it needs - gas). Several other grains it needs to import.