Iran/US conflict

[August]

Originally Posted by Commander Wallace

Remember that time Russian forces shot down Malaysia Airlines, flight 17 on the 17th of July 2014 in the Ukraine ? Albeit, with denials from Russia.

Then there was Korean Airlines flight 700 back in1983, except in that incident they knew it was an airliner full of civilians before they shot it down.

[Mr Quatro]

Originally Posted by August

Then there was Korean Airlines flight 700 back in1983, except in that incident they knew it was an airliner full of civilians before they shot it down.

That was the one that all of the passengers shoes were missing in, right?

But someone saw them all lined up on the beach I think

[ET2SN]

Actually, it was later de-classified that there was an RC-135 operating in that area (KAL007).

[u crank]

Originally Posted by Mr Quatro

Especially if it was on purpose to hurt President Trump, the USA, Boeing aircraft
and even make it look like an accident, but to deny it happen with the whole world watching ...

I don't think it was intentional, I think it was probably a combination of incompetence and zealotry.

This is laughable and proves that Iran can not be trusted with a nuclear weapon.

Ha ha. Never thought of that. Great, thanks for the nightmares.

[Aktungbby]

Originally Posted by August

Then there was Korean Airlines flight 700 back in1983, except in that incident they knew it was an airliner full of civilians before they shot it down.

nonsense! it was a plot to kill a US Congreessman, Larry McDonald, who was also president of the anticommunist John Birch Society!

[mapuc]

There's something I can't get strait in this story. Maybe you can help me out.

Yesterday after getting home after work I turned on my telly to watch the latest news
Here I could see hear and read-that the Danish forces with others at the base who was attacked got a warning 6 hour prior to the missile attack.

If my memory aren't wrong. FAA and other similar organization warned civilian aircraft before the start of the first Iraqi war or was it at the second Iraqi war.
Remember it from Danish and Swedish news then.

Why didn't the Iraqi government say to civilian aircraft-Our airspace is closed between xx.xx hour and until xx.xx hours ?

The attack have to be a surprise you may say...don't forget the allied got this warning 6 hours before.

Secondly-
The Danish soldiers who was at the base when Iran attacked it, will get psychological help to get through their trauma after this attack.

Are other allied who was at this base also getting psychological help ?

Markus

[Rockstar]

Yes there is a great number of organizations, peers and professionals here and abroad that are available. But if Im not mistaken mandatory attendance seldom does any good. Its something the soldier must want too do.

[Commander Wallace]

Originally Posted by August

Then there was Korean Airlines flight 700 back in1983, except in that incident they knew it was an airliner full of civilians before they shot it down.

Actually, it was Korean airlines flight 007 but you are right regarding the circumstances. I neglected to mention it as I didn't want it to seem like I was piling on.

[Mr Quatro]

Originally Posted by Aktungbby

nonsense! it was a plot to kill a US Congreessman, Larry McDonald, who was also president of the anticommunist John Birch Society!

That was the thought of the day OMG what year was that?

1983?

What year did the Berlin wall fall down?

Only a discerning person could put two and two together that these two items were judgement from above.

The historic Berlin Wall fell on November 9, 1989

That's why I think God is not through with Iran ... No way is He going to let Iran send a nuclear tipped missile to Israel,
which by the way could be delivered by a piper cub if Iran had one, it's just that a nuclear tipped missile aimed at Israel is more provocative.

Fear is NK and Iran's biggest weapon for respect

[ikalugin]

Originally Posted by Commander Wallace

Remember that time Russian forces shot down Malaysia Airlines, flight 17 on the 17th of July 2014 in the Ukraine ? Albeit, with denials from Russia.

Not in the region, but then the Ukrainian shot down of the Russian airliner in 2001 over the Black Sea wasn't either.

My point is that those incidents happen, particularly during tensions, but there is a media bias, which I have pointed out by mentioning the in region US case.

[ikalugin]

Originally Posted by ET2SN

Actually, it was later de-classified that there was an RC-135 operating in that area (KAL007).

And there was a persistent US operation to test Soviet air defenses that was driving the air defense force nuts.
But we are not going to remember those nuances as USSR, Russia, Iran are bad and US is good, right?

[Buddahaid]

Every viewpoint is biased, or is that also a bias?

Sorry for the screwed up post. The following one is my point.

[Buddahaid]

All viewpoints are biased, some have better foundations than others, but isn't that another bias?

[Rockstar]

Originally Posted by ikalugin

And there was a persistent US operation to test Soviet air defenses that was driving the air defense force nuts.
But we are not going to remember those nuances as USSR, Russia, Iran are bad and US is good, right?

Yep.


No excuse, everyone needs to know what the hell they're aiming at before they pull the trigger and kill people. At least the Chinese positively identified their target as a U.S. spy plane before they crashed into it.

[Commander Wallace]

Originally Posted by ikalugin

Not in the region, but then the Ukrainian shot down of the Russian airliner in 2001 over the Black Sea wasn't either.

My point is that those incidents happen, particularly during tensions, but there is a media bias, which I have pointed out by mentioning the in region US case.

Actually, none of the events that you or I have mentioned have any relevance to the events in Iran, meaning the shoot down of the airliner other than the the other aircraft in the incidents mentioned were unarmed, civilian airliners as well.


While accidents are possible, only a coward would kill innocent civilians. Unfortunately, the Iranians disposed of whatever incriminating evidence existed. By their actions, I believe the court of world wide opinion will hold the Iranians culpable in this tragedy.