Conspiracies, sheeple, the universe and everything

The difference between the US and secession in Africa, Eastern Europe, Asia, etc, is that the in US, we drew up our own union. In Africa, Eastern Europe and Asia, the French the English, the Russians, the Ottomans and the Chinese drew up borders for other peoples.

How so?
Your country spent the next 130+ years negotiating with Britain on where each of you would agree to draw the lines on the map, sometimes going to other countries for international arbitration and getting those countries to help decide on a line to draw.
Currently you have 5 ongoing border disputes with your "new" northern neighbour, in the 1970s and 80s you went to Holland to ask the Hague to draw a border for you.
As for drawing up borders for other people, you seem to be skipping over Americas role in that practice.

[mapuc]

Some one mentioned "Tin foil hat"

Here's the story of this famous hat

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tin_foil_hat

I tried a hat my self-not to protect me against the government or other officials, but to protect my brain against all these conspiracy stuff.

Markus

[Aktungbby]

Originally Posted by Tribesman

How so?
Your country spent the next 130+ years negotiating with Britain on where each of you would agree to draw the lines on the map, sometimes going to other countries for international arbitration and getting those countries to help decide on a line to draw.
Currently you have 5 ongoing border disputes with your "new" northern neighbour, in the 1970s and 80s you went to Holland to ask the Hague to draw a border for you.
As for drawing up borders for other people, you seem to be skipping over Americas role in that practice.

No kidding! there I was peaceably (muskie) fishing on Lake of the Woods in my home state of Minnesota (3 Quetico treks)and suddenly a Canadian ranger pulls alongside my canoe... I had drifted to his side of the lake without the proper angler license; fortunately the hook and bobber were still on the American side and he let me 'kedge the reel' back to the states..but only because we both played hockey and my mom's parents are from Toronto. I regard it as my only real life naval engagement from which I escaped intact.

[TarJak]

Originally Posted by Bubblehead1980

Obviously, you don't understand the ideology, do some research then we can talk.The UN does have an Office for Disarmament? The UN is never offering a pro gun treaty now are they? Look at the people who run that freakshow.

Your entertainment value just went up a notch Bubbles. You have yet again failed to provide any evidence to sustain your assertion relying on bluster and bollox to try to shout down any opposing view.

Have you ever visited the UNODA website and read anything that they have published? If you are fine that no one makes any attempt to stem the flows of illegal and legal weapons from getting into the hands of terrorist groups and their like, then you're so called Conservatism is getting in the way of your humanity. Your strategy of straying from the point of your original argument won't work, so stick to the point and prove your argument. Or just continue to fling poo about without caring because what you think is right and no-one who posts anything contrary to your view is not so there.

You're strategy of straying from the point of your original argument won't work so stick to the point and prove your argument.

But what about Jefferson Davis, a tyrant and TREASON!!!!!!!! and I bet he wanted to take der gunz too.
He was part of a secret UN plot which was so secret that most people who havn't researched properly like I does still think the UN wasn't invented to run the world till the 1940s

[TarJak]

Originally Posted by Tribesman

But what about Jefferson Davis, a tyrant and TREASON!!!!!!!! and I bet he wanted to take der gunz too.
He was part of a secret UN plot which was so secret that most people who havn't researched properly like I does still think the UN wasn't invented to run the world till the 1940s

Of course! It was the previous incarnation the League of Extraordinary Nations and before that, the International Peace congress, all the way back to that loony Hugo Grotius who kicked the whole conspiracy off.

[Dread Knot]

Originally Posted by Tribesman

Currently you have 5 ongoing border disputes with your "new" northern neighbour, in the 1970s and 80s you went to Holland to ask the Hague to draw a border for you.
As for drawing up borders for other people, you seem to be skipping over Americas role in that practice.

And how many of these ongoing border disputes have resulted in long lasting schisms or civil war?

When I refer to drawing up our own union, I'm speaking to the nearly 80 years of compromise and confrontation inside the US between free and slave owning states. A long running and ruinous completion between the southern and northern states for power in Congress and for control over future territories. The point I'm trying to make is we own our civil war here. We can't blame it on a former colonial or imperial master who drew lines on a map which divided us or we just didn't like. We drew them ourselves. Ultimately, the blame has to go to a Constitution that kept alive the institution of Slavery.

[mapuc]

The Truth is.......here in GT

Originally Posted by Bubblehead1980

No, proves it was being sarcastic.

1 point for an original line of BS.

Under my skin no? annoying? sure,

"annoying? sure," defines the under the skin part.


The rest reminded me of Adults in a 'Charley Brown' show.

[Bubblehead1980]

Originally Posted by TarJak

Your entertainment value just went up a notch Bubbles. You have yet again failed to provide any evidence to sustain your assertion relying on bluster and bollox to try to shout down any opposing view.

Have you ever visited the UNODA website and read anything that they have published? If you are fine that no one makes any attempt to stem the flows of illegal and legal weapons from getting into the hands of terrorist groups and their like, then you're so called Conservatism is getting in the way of your humanity. Your strategy of straying from the point of your original argument won't work, so stick to the point and prove your argument. Or just continue to fling poo about without caring because what you think is right and no-one who posts anything contrary to your view is not so there.

The only getting in the way of humanity are the socialists/collectivists etc of the world.

The whole "safety" and weapons falling into hands of terrorists etc is garbage, it's their guise for an overall objective.Don't be such a pawn.Really is sad when people.

I have no strayed unless responding to various ignorant posters.Signing the treason is treaty as it does enable a registration of sorts for those who import weapons.I posted a link to the treaty, pretty easy to read.Mentions keeping records on imports and reporting this.That is registration, period.No such treaty that binds the US government to do such a thing is permissible, period!

[TarJak]

Originally Posted by Bubblehead1980

The only getting in the way of humanity are the socialists/collectivists etc of the world.

The whole "safety" and weapons falling into hands of terrorists etc is garbage, it's their guise for an overall objective.Don't be such a pawn.Really is sad when people.

I have no strayed unless responding to various ignorant posters.Signing the treason is treaty as it does enable a registration of sorts for those who import weapons.I posted a link to the treaty, pretty easy to read.Mentions keeping records on imports and reporting this.That is registration, period.No such treaty that binds the US government to do such a thing is permissible, period!

I wish I could understand your response but there are too many words and letters missing for any of it to make sense. It also looks like some of the words are not in the right order.

The whole "safety" and weapons falling into hands of terrorists etc is garbage, it's their guise for an overall objective.Don't be such a pawn.Really is sad when people.

History and current events not your strong points either then.
No wonder you are siding with Iran and N. Korea on this issue then

I have no strayed unless responding to various ignorant posters.

Young man the ignorance is clearly on you and you alone in this topic

I posted a link to the treaty, pretty easy to read

Yet you managed the incredible feat of not being able to read it

Mentions keeping records on imports and reporting this.That is registration, period.No such treaty that binds the US government to do such a thing is permissible, period!

If you ran through current long standing US legislation you could see how you are talking total bollox, but legislation is another of your weak points isn't it

[u crank]

Originally Posted by Bubblehead1980

I have no strayed unless responding to various ignorant posters.

Oh yeah, that's classy. Nice.

Originally Posted by Bubblehead1980

The only getting in the way of humanity are the socialists/collectivists etc of the world.

The whole "safety" and weapons falling into hands of terrorists etc is garbage, it's their guise for an overall objective.Don't be such a pawn.Really is sad when people.

I have no strayed unless responding to various ignorant posters.Signing the treason is treaty as it does enable a registration of sorts for those who import weapons.I posted a link to the treaty, pretty easy to read.Mentions keeping records on imports and reporting this.That is registration, period.No such treaty that binds the US government to do such a thing is permissible, period!

Somebody needs to reboot the bubble-bot. It seems to be producing garbage...

[razark]

Originally Posted by Bubblehead1980

Signing the treason is treaty as it does enable a registration of sorts for those who import weapons.

How, exactly, is gun registration "treason"?

You seem extremely hung up on that point, yet you have never shown how "registration" equals, or necessarily leads to, "treason" (see below). Without that link, you appear to be foaming at the mouth crazy. Show that link, and you have a better chance of winning people over to your side. Scream that it's so obvious and rant about how blind people are, and you're just doing harm to those that agree with you by making them look stupid and insane by association.

Originally Posted by Article Three of The Constitution of the United States

Treason against the United States, shall consist only in levying War against them, or in adhering to their Enemies, giving them Aid and Comfort.