Wuhan virus 2020

[mapuc]

Even our kids seems to suffer from this Corona Virus.

Heard about this 5 year old boy in the news some hours ago.

(Made a search for it)

If confirmed, it would be the first known death in New York related to the mysterious inflammation that recently began appearing in children.

https://www.nytimes.com/2020/05/08/n...-kawasaki.html

Markus

[Jimbuna]

Children have already succumbed here in the UK but thankfully not in great numbers.

[Catfish]

Originally Posted by ikalugin

I would agree that all such cases should be properly investigated, it just that I am cynical about media reporting. […]

Who do you think you are kidding? If doctors or anyone who dares to speak up against the russian government is being threatened or immediately "silenced", who do you think will really investigate? There will be fake investigations and similar "results" to calm down the public, and that will be all. "Cynical about newspapers" alright, i would be at least equally cynical of any governmental "report".

As to the PPE reserves - they are strongly region dependent, some regions have enacted state of emergency and released their stockpiles, some didn't, some have a good procurement program and some don't and so on. I would expect some regional governors to get the stick for incomptence after this.

Maybe. But how can regional governors do something wrong when all they do is being directed and controlled from and by Moscow?
Moscow will of course blame local governors to divert from their own failures, how could Moscow ever be wrong? It is all so laughable.

You do not need to think just because democratic countries make mistakes (they do), that anyone here will see Russia or China as the shining example of how everything is great there and how countries should be run, by "professionals" like Xi Jinping or Erdoghan. Or Putin.

[Mr Quatro]

Originally Posted by Jimbuna

^Only five posts above yours.

My bad ... I'll drink more carrot juice

[Mr Quatro]

I don't really understand what this chart means?

[Catfish]

This looks bad.
As said before i am a bit sceptical about "operation roaming freedom" and open up everything now. Politics and dumbness.

[Rockstar]

https://www.spectator.co.uk/article/...ng-about-covid

The British government took the paternalist view that we could not be trusted to take advice but must be ordered into lockdown. It rushed through some terrifyingly illiberal legislation. With a few exceptions, the British people appear to have become willing, even censorious, assistants in the enforcement of the rules. The problem is not now people disobeying the rules, but being terrified to give up the extreme safety of lockdown and relaxed about staying at home on taxpayer--subsidised wages. In the light of what we know, it is vital that the government now switches from urging us to stay at home to urging us to return to as much of normal life as possible.Be in no doubt that the strangulation that is asphyxiating the economy will have to be gradually lifted long before we know the full epidemiology of the virus. Perilous though the path is, we cannot wait for the fog to lift before we start down the mountain.

[Jimbuna]

[Jimbuna]

[Jimbuna]

Transport Secretary Grant Shapps leads the daily briefing amid reports the UK will start quarantining travellers.

He says public transport will have a fraction of pre-pandemic capacity for some time.

More people will have to walk and cycle to work, Shapps says.

The briefing comes as the UK government reportedly plans a 14-day quarantine for arrivals from anywhere except the Republic of Ireland.

The policy is expected to come into force at the end of May and require self-isolation at a private residence.

Moscow celebrates Victory Day with a flypast after cancelling its parade but a full commemoration goes ahead in Belarus.

China's president expresses concern about the threat of the coronavirus to North Korea and offers help.

In South Korea, renewed restrictions are imposed on bars and clubs after a series of transmissions linked to Seoul's leisure district.

Global confirmed cases of Covid-19 near 4 million, with 275,000 deaths.

[Jimbuna]

Spain’s Prime Minister Pedro Sanchez has called on people to exercise “total caution” ahead of a partial relaxation of the country’s lockdown.

Rio de Janeiro's Maracanã - one of the world's most famous football stadiums - is hosting a coronavirus hospital.

New analysis by the New York Times suggests a third of all US deaths can be traced to care homes and nursing facilities.

The coronavirus pandemic is a "big test" that has exposed weaknesses in China's public health system, a senior official has told Chinese media.

Slovakia has recorded no new cases of the coronavirus for the first since time in more than two months, as the country begins to ease restrictions on life.

There were no tanks, and no parade of soldiers and veterans, in the heart of Moscow to mark the 75th anniversary of victory in World War Two.

Researchers in Hong Kong have revealed positive results from a trial involving a three-drug antiviral cocktail.

[Jimbuna]

[mapuc]

^ More and more countries and continent are gathering to send China a huge bill.

Wonder if China is able to pay it ?
And
Will they be interested in paying this huge bill ?

Markus

[Jimbuna]

Who is prepared to try and make them pay?

[Skybird]

Originally Posted by Jimbuna

While I of course support the advice to take Vit D, I again want to repeat that even higher doses of Vit-D, up to 10,000 I.U.s or so, might be recommendable but need to be supplemented by also taking Vit K2 and Magnesium.

Vit D resorbs calcium from the bones, that means it pulls it out of the bones, and that is bad for the bones, the calcium then is in the blood where it should not be, it can form crusts in the blood vessels, and kidney stones. The effect of taking high doses of Vit D thus sometimes can be "Hyperkalzämie", a too much of free calcium in your cardiovascular system, and again: kindey stones and arteriosclerosis. This is the real explanation for the bad reputation of Vit D, in the past they even named this "Vitamine D intoxication". Of course, that is bull.

Vit K now helps two things. It supports the blood clotting mechanism, and it supports the absorbation of clacium by the bones. Thus, it counters the calcium-resorbing effect of Vit-D. In simple words: high doses of Vit D gets the calcium out of the bones, Vit K puts it back in and keeps it there. This is the reason why good advice on Vit D always includes the advice to also take Vit K!!! The recommended dosis varies widely, like the dose for Vit K(2) also varies wildly. Most often you will read that if you take between 1,000 and 10,000 international units of Vit D, you may want to also take 100-250 micrograms of Vit K. Too much is again not wanted, because as I said: it supports blood clotting, and too much of that is not a wanted effect either... Consider this also when you take blood thinners together with drugs against high blood pressure. Bloot thinners and Vit K can work antagonistic.

Vitamine D needs a little bit of oil or fat to be fully absorbed. A daily tablespoon of any good and high quality oil, especially a good olive oil or linseed oil (we do not talk about taste here...) is a good idea anyway, due to the aminoacids and unsaturated fat acids. So why not making it a habit to use it when taling your daily D and K and Magnesium pills? Vit D in dry pills simply is cheaper , much cheaper, than if you buy oil capsules or fishoil capsules.



[ General tip: do not be shy with oil in your kitchen, but use good oils. Fats and oil do not make you fat, but BAD oil and BAD fats, together with consumming other bad stuff like sugar, corn sirup and all that sh##, make you fat. A high quality oil, with the accent on "high quality", is very precious, and very healthy. Dare to be generous with it! The food you prepare also will taste better. I can only laugh about fat redcued food offers in the supermarket, much of that is even damaging to your health. Fats on sale at street stands and burger diners however I avoid ].


Also, the absorbation of Vit D takes Magnesium, and not just a little bit of that. Magnesium "activates" the vitamine, and in that process gets consummed, is no more available for the body afterwards. Magnesium has a long list of positive effects for a wide range of physiological processes and variables, preventing cramps is just one and porbbaly the most famous amiongst many arguments, so is a good idea to consume it anyway, but taking Vit D without Magnesium makes about as much sense as taking Vit D without Vit K2: it makes not much sense at all, and only a tiny fraction of the taken Vit D becomes available for your body at all: at the cost of reducing your already existing physical Magnesium reserve further. The recommended doses for Magnesium in supporting Vit D is 200-350 milligrams ADDITIONALLY to the other physiological needs for magnesium, thats the reason why I would consider to take even twice as much, even 600-800 milligrams.

Vit D, Vit K and Magnesium all belong necessarily together if you consume food supplmements.

Myself, I left a phase of arming up my immune system when corona started, and now have entered the routine phase of where I want to consume, for long time to come, 10 thosuand I.E.s of Vit-D, 250micrograms of Vitamine K2 and in that pill also 2000 micrograms of Vit-K in two other chemical formats that are not as effective and physiologically absorbable, and 720 milligrams of Magnesium.

Additionally I take twice a day two 1000 mg pills of Vitamine C which I will reduce to 1 pill soon, and when I leave the house, I do not just have a FFP2 or FFP3 mask with me, but also start to suck a small lozenge with 5 mg of Zinc and 50mg of Vitamine C. This way, the Zinc gets directly into contact with those cells where the virus usually prefers to enter the body: throat (and upper throat/nose area. ) Just swallowing Zinc in one quick pill is unproved so far to be effective in blocking Corona virusses that have entered cells. You need to get it diretcly into the attackledc cells, and so far Zinc lozanges seem to be the most promising method to bring Zinc onto the battlefield, therefore. - Why Zinc? Because it is proven in vitro to harden cells that got infested by other Corona virusses and preventing the virus from activating the infested cell's internal structures to start producing more virus, thats why. But note that I said: in vitro. In a petry dish, that means. Its a chance that further improves chances in your favour: not more, but then, also not less.

This all ^ is, beside obvious behavioral rules and avoidance and evasion tactics, my defence lineup against Covid 19. More I cannot do, I think, and I feel comfortable with this set. If I get hit, I hope to get away with a mild form and enjoying my immune system shooting the attackers into pieces.