Here we go again-Ukraine once again pt2

[Rockstar]

Jeffries expressed concerns that despite billions of dollars in military aid from the United States, if Ukraine cannot secure victory over Russia, America may be compelled to intervene directly in the conflict.

U.S. could allow for American troop deployment to Ukraine - Democratic House leader Jeffries

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world...es/ar-BB1lT6Tu

"We cannot allow Ukraine to fall, because if it does, there is a significant possibility that America will have to intervene in the conflict — not just with our money, but with our troops," he told CBS News.

[mapuc]

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[Dargo]

[mapuc]

Can Ukraine fight on two front ?

Have heard rumours about Russia are planning on opening an extra front.

Does Ukraine need help to do this ?

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[Rockstar]

Originally Posted by mapuc

Can Ukraine fight on two front ?

Have heard rumours about Russia are planning on opening an extra front.

Does Ukraine need help to do this ?

Markus

IMO if Ukraine’s border defenses near Kharkiv are anything like whats between them and Belarus. I’d wager Russia chances of achieving anything meaningful on that new front would be slim to none.

[mapuc]

Originally Posted by Rockstar

IMO if Ukraine’s border defenses near Kharkiv are anything like whats between them and Belarus. I’d wager Russia chances of achieving anything meaningful on that new front would be slim to none.

Hope you're right. Maybe Russia is thinking an extra time before giving the march(correct spelled?) order

I don't know how many battalion there is around Kharkiv and Sumy and if it is enough to stop the Russian. If not Ukraine need to draw troops from other areas.

But I hope you're right

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[Skybird]

An attack now seems to come too late. Thank Scholz.

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/w...=sondermailing

In other words: the Russians have managed to SHORTEN their supply lines. Good for them. It also shows confidence that they can defend these.


We should now provide weapons that allow Ukraine to attack these new supply routes. I wonder if the ATACMS already got their teeth pulled by Russian jamming. Ther ehave been severla attacks with the newly delivered ATACMS - and they seem to have had surpringly little effect on the Russians' actions. Practically none.

[Skybird]

Originally Posted by Rockstar

IMO if Ukraine’s border defenses near Kharkiv are anything like whats between them and Belarus. I’d wager Russia chances of achieving anything meaningful on that new front would be slim to none.

Glide bombs.


So far Ukraine has no recipe against these, and Russia bombs itself a free path where it uses these. If they attack Charkiv and ukraine can hold the city, they will stop them not before but most liekly in the city.



In other words, Charkiv will get obliterated and wiped out like other cities before.

[mapuc]

Haven't they attempt this before. I seem to recall it



Markus

[August]

Originally Posted by mapuc

Haven't they attempt this before. I seem to recall it



Markus

I believe they have and will likely try again.

[Dargo]

Originally Posted by Skybird

Glide bombs.


So far Ukraine has no recipe against these, and Russia bombs itself a free path where it uses these. If they attack Charkiv and ukraine can hold the city, they will stop them not before but most liekly in the city.



In other words, Charkiv will get obliterated and wiped out like other cities before.

Usually there are diversionary tactics before an offensive starts. Two years ago, the Ukrainians pretended to attack Kherson, then advanced to Kharkiv and liberated more than 12,000 square kilometres. The chances of something like that succeeding with the Russians seem slim, since the Americans are monitoring Russian troop movements. The logistical preparation for such an offensive takes months. There is certainly no breakthrough. I think Russia will highlight these conquests in the May 9 celebrations. In that sense, it is important for propaganda. But this ground gain is really only small beer.

On paper, it is possible, of course, but personally I don't believe in it very much. First, because the Ukrainian defences are very deep after the first line, there is a second and a third. Another reason is that the Russians are not good at waging a war of movement, where armoured vehicles and infantry advance together, while being supported by air power. It is difficult to coordinate such a thing well. The Russian army usually focuses on one spot and then uses very heavy force to take it. Kharkiv and its surrounding defence area is big this is not Bakhmut or Avdiivka those cities took months and in case of Avdiivka years to conquer both because Ukraine ran out of munition that has changed Ukraine gets the munition do not see Russia take Kharkiv this year also not in 2025.

In my opinion, the Russians have two options. In the first, the Russian army moves further west from Donetsk and Luhansk, then we will see a continuation of the current fighting at Avdiivka. Or, at Cheyiv Yar, the Russian army tries to advance northward toward the cities of Kramatorsk and Kharkiv. The Ukrainians do have to decide at some point whether to counterattack. They have postponed that decision until when the Russian offensive begins (May or June). By withdrawing incrementally, the Ukrainians are gaining time. Only when we know where the Russians are attacking will they decide exactly how to respond. I do think that the offensive and Ukraine's reaction will determine the course of the war.

[Dargo]

Originally Posted by August

I believe they have and will likely try again.

Yeah, many times not only on the president alone but a whole range of political and military in high positions that is Russia only strategic goal to behead Ukraine so they can take control all other yada yada by Putin is yeah yada yada.

[mapuc]

Copy the link instead of getting the message age controlled (Except the /url)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qyiybFA7N6U&ab_channel=DivineJustice[/url]

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[Skybird]

Mapuc, that is a collage of randomly chosen clips, no news worth to be called that. In other words: propaganda drivel.

[mapuc]

^ Thank you Skybird, it will not be posted video from them hereafter.



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