Here we go again-Ukraine once again - Page 222

Catfish · 04-20-22, 04:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Platapus

Latest intercepted message from Germany to Poland
"So, just to make sure, you *want* us to move our army across Poland and attack Russia?"
"Last time we did that, you didn't like it. Just want to make sure. "

Maybe a pact with Russia beforehand, just for a surprise ..

Skybird · 04-20-22, 04:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Jeff-Groves

Stoled that right out of Hunger Games didn't you?

Correct. Im a big fan, and unspeakably proud of it.

Skybird · 04-20-22, 04:35 PM

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Originally Posted by Catfish

^ link to the original focus article?

Their running newsticker. The time-marked paragraphs cannot be directly linked. The news ticker is sometimes more up and sometimes more down their site.
EDIT: Correction: the quote is not from the newsticker of Focus, but Die Welt. My bad, sorry.

Yesterday or the day before I even red a news saying that Scholz had even prohibited Ukraine to use that money for buying heavy weapons from other states, not just Germany. Cannot say whether its true or not. I mentioned it in a post back then already.

Jeff-Groves · 04-20-22, 04:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Skybird

Correct. Im a big fan, and unspeakably proud of it.

I didn't even finish reading your sentence and knew where that came from!

mapuc · 04-20-22, 04:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Skybird

Their running newsticker. The time-marked paragraphs cannot be directly linked. The news ticker is sometimes more up and sometimes more down their site.
EDIT: Correction: the quote is not from the newsticker of Focus, but Die Welt. My bad, sorry.

Yesterday or the day before I even red a news saying that Scholz had even prohibited Ukraine to use that money for buying heavy weapons from other states, not just Germany. Cannot say whether its true or not. I mentioned it in a post back then already.

I found this

https://www.welt.de/debatte/kommenta...g-gedroht.html

Sadly it's behind a paywall.

Markus

Armistead · 04-20-22, 05:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Moonlight

Patrick Lancaster is a Russian propaganda mouthpiece, I would take anything he says and films with a pinch of salt, in fact if you take any video or news report that has not been verified as a fact then you are dafter than I thought you all were.

Yea, interesting how he promotes Russians as the defenders of Mariupol from the attacking Ukrainians as he walks around a city Russia leveled..

mapuc · 04-20-22, 05:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Armistead

Yea, interesting how he promotes Russians as the defenders of Mariupol from the attacking Ukrainians as he walks around a city Russia leveled..

I saw some minutes of the video up to where this Russian soldier started to shoot against some buildings about 1-150 meters from where they were..What is he shooting at..I tried to see if there was any Ukrainian in the opposite end..Could not see any.

Not saying there weren't any there I just couldn't see any.

It also made me think of Bollywood for some reason

Markus

Skybird · 04-20-22, 05:42 PM

Its not my day today.
The story I quoted from, is very well from FOCUS.

https://www.focus.de/politik/ausland..._52139887.html

Skybird · 04-20-22, 05:46 PM

And this news about Turkey is froim Die Welt's live ticker.

With irritating remarks, the Turkish foreign minister criticizes other members of NATO, using narratives from the Kremlin. Meanwhile, SPD co-chair Saskia Esken and Ukrainian Ambassador Andrey Melnyk met on Wednesday. More in the live ticker.

Turkey's foreign minister has accused some other NATO countries of seeking a prolonged war in Ukraine as a way to weaken Russia. "There are countries in NATO that want the war to continue," Foreign Minister Mevlüt Cavusoglu said on Turkish television Wednesday. "Their goal is to weaken Russia." Turkey, mind you, is itself a member of NATO - yet Cavusoglu is spreading a narrative of Russian propaganda here.

Russia and Ukraine had held ceasefire talks in Turkey twice, most recently in late March. The negotiations have since reached an impasse. Turkey is actually considered an ally of Ukraine, which it supplies with combat drones.

Translated with www.DeepL.com/Translator (free version)

mapuc · 04-20-22, 06:08 PM

I thought I had found it in die welt.de.

Turkey is sitting on two chairs they support both side in the war. Sooner or later they have to show where they stand.

Markus

Jimbuna · 04-21-22, 06:39 AM

Jimbuna · 04-21-22, 06:41 AM

Jimbuna · 04-21-22, 06:43 AM

Jimbuna · 04-21-22, 06:54 AM

Vladimir Putin orders his troops not to storm the Azovstal steel plant, where the last group of Ukrainian fighters in Mariupol is holding out.

Instead, the president tells them to seal it up so even a "fly" cannot escape, and says Russia has control of the strategic port city.

Some civilians trapped for weeks in the wider south-eastern city have been able to leave, but far fewer than hoped.

In the east of Ukraine, where fighting continues along a 300-mile front, Russia has not had any major breakthroughs, a think-tank says.

Moscow secured "minor gains", including parts of some frontline towns, Institute for the Study of War analysis shows.

Catfish · 04-21-22, 06:59 AM

Russia Doesn’t Need Trolls This Time:
Plenty of prominent right-wing media figures are pushing out Vladimir Putin’s propaganda for him.

https://www.thebulwark.com/russia-do...lls-this-time/

04-20-22, 05:42 PM	#3323
Skybird Soaring Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: the mental asylum named Germany Posts: 42,729 Downloads: 10 Uploads: 0	Its not my day today. The story I quoted from, is very well from FOCUS. https://www.focus.de/politik/ausland..._52139887.html __________________ If you feel nuts, consult an expert.

04-20-22, 05:46 PM	#3324
Skybird Soaring Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: the mental asylum named Germany Posts: 42,729 Downloads: 10 Uploads: 0	And this news about Turkey is froim Die Welt's live ticker. With irritating remarks, the Turkish foreign minister criticizes other members of NATO, using narratives from the Kremlin. Meanwhile, SPD co-chair Saskia Esken and Ukrainian Ambassador Andrey Melnyk met on Wednesday. More in the live ticker. Turkey's foreign minister has accused some other NATO countries of seeking a prolonged war in Ukraine as a way to weaken Russia. "There are countries in NATO that want the war to continue," Foreign Minister Mevlüt Cavusoglu said on Turkish television Wednesday. "Their goal is to weaken Russia." Turkey, mind you, is itself a member of NATO - yet Cavusoglu is spreading a narrative of Russian propaganda here. Russia and Ukraine had held ceasefire talks in Turkey twice, most recently in late March. The negotiations have since reached an impasse. Turkey is actually considered an ally of Ukraine, which it supplies with combat drones. Translated with www.DeepL.com/Translator (free version) __________________ If you feel nuts, consult an expert.

04-20-22, 06:08 PM	#3325
mapuc CINC Pacific Fleet Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Denmark Posts: 20,576 Downloads: 37 Uploads: 0	I thought I had found it in die welt.de. Turkey is sitting on two chairs they support both side in the war. Sooner or later they have to show where they stand. Markus __________________ My little lovely female cat

04-21-22, 06:39 AM	#3326
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04-21-22, 06:54 AM	#3329
Jimbuna Chief of the Boat Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: 250 metres below the surface Posts: 191,083 Downloads: 63 Uploads: 13	Vladimir Putin orders his troops not to storm the Azovstal steel plant, where the last group of Ukrainian fighters in Mariupol is holding out. Instead, the president tells them to seal it up so even a "fly" cannot escape, and says Russia has control of the strategic port city. Some civilians trapped for weeks in the wider south-eastern city have been able to leave, but far fewer than hoped. In the east of Ukraine, where fighting continues along a 300-mile front, Russia has not had any major breakthroughs, a think-tank says. Moscow secured "minor gains", including parts of some frontline towns, Institute for the Study of War analysis shows. __________________ Wise men speak because they have something to say; Fools because they have to say something. Oh my God, not again!!

04-21-22, 06:59 AM	#3330
Catfish Dipped Squirrel Operative Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: ..where the ocean meets the sky Posts: 17,807 Downloads: 38 Uploads: 0	Russia Doesn’t Need Trolls This Time: Plenty of prominent right-wing media figures are pushing out Vladimir Putin’s propaganda for him. https://www.thebulwark.com/russia-do...lls-this-time/ __________________ >^..^<*)))>{ All generalizations are wrong.