Iran/US conflict - Page 22

Skybird · 01-09-20, 04:20 PM

mapuc · 01-09-20, 05:14 PM

The Ukrainian airliner was shot down by Iranian and it was a mistake-this is the information I got through our news channel.

They don't think it will result in some punishment.

It's sad nevertheless.

Markus

Jimbuna · 01-10-20, 07:16 AM

Video footage of the incident here: https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-middle-east-51062369

And here:

Commander Wallace · 01-10-20, 07:52 AM

^ meanwhile, Iran has invited investigators into the crash site that they have completely cleaned up. Iran is bulldozing the area ahead of any investigation.

http://english.alarabiya.net/en/News...rival-CBS.html

https://www.businessinsider.sg/iran-...gation-2020-1/

Does this sound like they are trying to cover things up to you ?

Tchocky · 01-10-20, 08:27 AM

Sounds like a fairly massive screwup on behalf of the Iranian military.

u crank · 01-10-20, 08:46 AM

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Originally Posted by Tchocky

Sounds like a fairly massive screwup on behalf of the Iranian military.

Yep. And the people involved will likely be 'disappeared'.

Jimbuna · 01-10-20, 10:06 AM

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The crash of Ukraine International Airlines flight PS752 with the loss of 176 lives came just hours after Iran carried out missile strikes on two airbases housing US forces in Iraq.

US media have speculated that the airliner may have been mistaken for a warplane as Iran prepared for possible US retaliation.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-middle-east-51062369

Sounds plausible to me.

Mr Quatro · 01-10-20, 10:08 AM

Iran is going to be the laughing stock of the world

Can you imagine these fools in charge of nuclear weapons?

https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/...da/4429314002/

Ali Rabiei, a spokesperson for the Iranian government, also accused the United States of spreading misinformation

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"What is obvious for us, and what we can say with certainty, is that no missile hit the plane," Abedzadeh said. "If they are really sure, they should come and show their findings to the world" in accordance with international standards.

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"It is unfortunate that the psychological operation of the U.S. government, and those supporting it knowingly and unknowingly, are adding insult to the injury of the bereaved families and victimizing them for certain goals by propagating such fallacies," Rabiei said.

ikalugin · 01-10-20, 10:17 AM

Remember that time US shot down the air liner in the region?

Skybird · 01-10-20, 10:34 AM

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Originally Posted by Jimbuna

Sounds plausible to me.

To me as well.

There were too many Iranians aboard as if a hypothesis of "message-sending to the west" makes sense.

However, it needs evidence given by those who raise the claim. If they do not release it, its just hear-say, and unproven claim.

Commander Wallace · 01-10-20, 10:54 AM

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Originally Posted by ikalugin

Remember that time US shot down the air liner in the region?

Remember that time Russian forces shot down Malaysia Airlines, flight 17 on the 17th of July 2014 in the Ukraine ? Albeit, with denials from Russia.

Aktungbby · 01-10-20, 12:34 PM

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Originally Posted by u crank

Yep. And the people involved will likely be 'disappeared'.

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the Iranian report confirmed that both of the "black boxes" that contain data and cockpit communications from the plane had been recovered, though they sustained damage...and some parts of their memory was lost...

How terribly convenient; now the facts will be 'disappeared' too! Tis the will of AllahBBY

but now they at least owe the captain of the USS Vincennes an apology for his shootdown of IranAir 655!

Rockstar · 01-10-20, 12:57 PM

Aggressive action by Russians? Ummm NO. I cant imagine they'd place a ship in jeopardy as they dont have that many. You can see clearly early on @ 1:00 the U.S. ship is overtaking it could even very well be considered a crossing situation. Either rule would require the ship to port (U.S. ship) to take early and substantial action and keep out of the way of other vessel.

As the Russian ship approaches from astern I'm watching the wash and I seem to think the U.S. ship may have even slowed down some in front of the Russian one. Technically however I think its now the Russians job to give way.

No violations really since no collision had occurred, a miss by a foot is just as good as a miss by a mile. Im sure things like this happened a lot during the cold war. But with todays instant access to information governments and captains really need be careful not to embarrass themselves.

https://www.cnn.com/2020/01/10/polit...deo/index.html

Mr Quatro · 01-10-20, 01:41 PM

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Originally Posted by u crank

Yep. And the people involved will likely be 'disappeared'.

Especially if it was on purpose to hurt President Trump, the USA, Boeing aircraft
and even make it look like an accident, but to deny it happen with the whole world watching ...

This is laughable and proves that Iran can not be trusted with a nuclear weapon.

Did you know that this general (whats his name) called for a nuclear cloud over Israel ... Think about that one

Skybird · 01-10-20, 03:36 PM

The US should have targetted a second high ranking Al Kuds commander, their chief of finances. The attack failed.

https://edition.cnn.com/2020/01/10/p...ion/index.html

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Rockstar In the Brig Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Zendia Bar & Grill Posts: 12,614 Downloads: 10 Uploads: 0	Aggressive action by Russians? Ummm NO. I cant imagine they'd place a ship in jeopardy as they dont have that many. You can see clearly early on @ 1:00 the U.S. ship is overtaking it could even very well be considered a crossing situation. Either rule would require the ship to port (U.S. ship) to take early and substantial action and keep out of the way of other vessel. As the Russian ship approaches from astern I'm watching the wash and I seem to think the U.S. ship may have even slowed down some in front of the Russian one. Technically however I think its now the Russians job to give way. No violations really since no collision had occurred, a miss by a foot is just as good as a miss by a mile. Im sure things like this happened a lot during the cold war. But with todays instant access to information governments and captains really need be careful not to embarrass themselves. https://www.cnn.com/2020/01/10/polit...deo/index.html Last edited by Rockstar; 01-10-20 at 01:39 PM.

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mapuc CINC Pacific Fleet Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Denmark Posts: 20,618 Downloads: 37 Uploads: 0	The Ukrainian airliner was shot down by Iranian and it was a mistake-this is the information I got through our news channel. They don't think it will result in some punishment. It's sad nevertheless. Markus

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Commander Wallace Navy Seal Join Date: Oct 2012 Location: Under the sea in an Octupus garden in the shade Posts: 5,335 Downloads: 366 Uploads: 0	^ meanwhile, Iran has invited investigators into the crash site that they have completely cleaned up. Iran is bulldozing the area ahead of any investigation. http://english.alarabiya.net/en/News...rival-CBS.html https://www.businessinsider.sg/iran-...gation-2020-1/ Does this sound like they are trying to cover things up to you ?

01-10-20, 03:36 PM	#330
Skybird Soaring Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: the mental asylum named Germany Posts: 42,788 Downloads: 10 Uploads: 0	The US should have targetted a second high ranking Al Kuds commander, their chief of finances. The attack failed. https://edition.cnn.com/2020/01/10/p...ion/index.html __________________ If you feel nuts, consult an expert.