The all purpose terrorism thread featuring plenty of allah akbar

[Jimbuna]

From the BBC news site just over an hour ago...

No motive has been established, but the FBI is considering both workplace violence and terrorism, according to David Bowdich from the bureau's Los Angeles office.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-34991855

[Rockstar]

certainly it was a couple of true belivers of islam but the act of terrorism as defined by U.S.C. may have not been met. we shall see.

[Aktungbby]

Originally Posted by Oberon

I think the sticking point is whether the i, ii, iii of B are 'and' or 'or', because so far as we know, this attack was not intended to influence or affect the policies of the US government, however it was certainly intended by its very nature to intimidate a civilian population.

Well in addition to the body armor, BDUs, excessive ammo/weapons, there were explosive devices however crudely built; preconceived intent to make a large impact with that much planning involving an accomplice; an alleged trip back to Saudi Arabia all tend to point to sudden radicalization awaiting an opportunity ...I just hope the obviously devoted Ms Farouk doesn't object to hubby's 72 virgins....

[eddie]

Makes you wonder if she was a radical already when he married her, and that she and others turned him into one?

[Onkel Neal]

Originally Posted by Rockstar

certainly it was a couple of true belivers of islam but the act of terrorism as defined by U.S.C. may have not been met. we shall see.

Well, if these weren't terrorists, then that means they must have been moderate muslims...yipes.

[Rockstar]

I'll say this, I like France's response to what happened when the same thing happened over there. Seems to me nobody thought twice to bomb the snot out of those camel jockeys. Whereas we're sitting on our arses debating along political ideology and or whether it was a case of work place violence or terrorism.

I dont want 'the new norm' I want satisfaction, I want to put an end to it. Do what we in the 40's if they cant live in peace with thier neighbor then drop leaflets warning them to run and turn that sandlot into a molten ball of glass.

Yes that means I will have to be like them for a few minutes until its over. Afterwards I can go back to living in peace.

[Aktungbby]

Originally Posted by Rockstar

I'll say this, I like France's response to what happened when the same thing happened over there. Seems to me nobody thought twice to bomb the snot out of those camel jockeys. Whereas we're sitting on our arses debating along political ideology and or whether it was a case of work place violence or terrorism.

I dont want 'the new norm' I want satisfaction, I want to put an end to it. Do what we in the 40's if they cant live in peace with thier neighbor then drop leaflets warning them to run and turn that sandlot into a molten ball of glass.

I think calling some one a Camel jockey is disrespectful!! and it's not a 'molten ball'; it's trinitite, A uniquely American product; and we need to re-invent it again...https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trinitite

[yubba]

So, this the clock makers work place violence thread,,,... I see some still can't say radical islam.

[Aktungbby]

Originally Posted by yubba

So, this the clock makers work place violence thread,,,... I see some still can't say radical islam.

Originally Posted by me

point to sudden radicalization awaiting

Oh I think I just bracketed that target sufficiently...

[mapuc]

I'm not afraid to say radical Islam, but was those who did this, radical in their belief ?

Markus

[Skybird]

14 dead, a dozen pipe bombs found, several thousand rounds of ammo found, Islamic background. If this is not IDying them as Islamic terrorists, then I don't know what could.

If not now, they would have gone live later.

[Skybird]

Originally Posted by mapuc

I'm not afraid to say radical Islam, but was those who did this, radical in their belief ?

Markus

Can a believer of a given radical ideology be not be a believer of that ideology when believing that radical ideology? Either he believes in it, then he necessarily is a radical, since it is a radical ideology, or he questions that need for radical content in it - by that illustrating that he already does no longer believe in it.

Either you are wet, or you are not. There is no dry way to be wet. Better consider this before jumping into the water.

[yubba]

Originally Posted by Skybird

14 dead, a dozen pipe bombs found, several thousand rounds of ammo found, Islamic background. If this is not IDying them as Islamic terrorists, then I don't know what could.

If not now, they would have gone live later.

Just some up standing Citizens,, exercising their first amendment rights

[u crank]

Originally Posted by Skybird

Can a believer of a given radical ideology be not be a believer of that ideology when believing that radical ideology? Either he believes in it, then he necessarily is a radical, since it is a radical ideology, or he questions that need for radical content in it - by that illustrating that he already does no longer believe in it.

Either you are wet, or you are not. There is no dry way to be wet. Better consider this before jumping into the water.

There are other possibilities. Maybe he is just a thug. A killer, a gangster. A sick person looking for a way to carry out his nightmare. He doesn't believe. He doesn't have to believe. Maybe he just needs an excuse. Any excuse will do.

And he doesn't care if he's wet or dry.

[Skybird]

"Possibilities" there are as many as there are minds on Earth multipli8ed by the stars in the sky.

Its about how likely they are. Thats why I do not really take into account the "possibility" that pigs indeed could fly.

But maybe I just lack fantasy, and am too sober-minded.