Libyan No-Fly Zone res. passed by UN

[Schroeder]

Originally Posted by jimbuna

I must admit I'd be feeling a tad annoyed if I were a German right at this moment.

Annoyed? Actually it's nothing short of embarrassing.

[Platapus]

Originally Posted by Bilge_Rat

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Well the time is now and the place is Libya: Do you let Khadafi reconquer the whole of Libya and put to death ten of thousands of opponents or do you say, enough is enough, we are not going to stand by and let another tinpot dictator get away with murder.

And how many people do you think the rebels will kill if they get into power?

[Bilge_Rat]

Originally Posted by Platapus

And how many people do you think the rebels will kill if they get into power?

Less, the same or more than Khadafi. No one can predict the future.

However, we do have a pretty good idea of how many Khadafi will kill.

[joegrundman]

Originally Posted by Bilge_Rat

Less, the same or more than Khadafi. No one can predict the future.

However, we do have a pretty good idea of how many Khadafi will kill.

and how many is that?

and how many is that?

Less, the same or more than the rebels. No one can predict the future.....
unless of course you cover all bases which isn't a prediction at all.
Or if you think you have covered all bases like Rummy with his WMDs east north south and west of Bahgdad but were just making it all up.

[krashkart]

Originally Posted by joegrundman

and how many is that?

Originally Posted by Tribesman

Less, the same or more than the rebels. No one can predict the future.....
unless of course you cover all bases which isn't a prediction at all.
Or if you think you have covered all bases like Rummy with his WMDs east north south and west of Bahgdad but were just making it all up.

I'll give it a shot:

The number will be somewhere between 1 and "fukifiknow".

"fukifiknow"

is that a small fishing village in Asia?

[krashkart]

Originally Posted by Tribesman

is that a small fishing village in Asia?

[Bilge_Rat]

Apparently a french fighter shot down a Libyan plane identified as a Soko G-2 Galeb, that entered the no-fly zone over Misratah.

no confirmation yet.

http://www.lefigaro.fr/flash-actu/20...libyen-abc.php

http://news.sky.com/skynews/Home/Wor..._Near_Misratah

[MH]

I wonder if UN will succeed in installing Mubarak style regime in Libya.

It seems that many Arabs think that Da Man will screw UN over somehow.
They don't share UN enthusiasm for freedom and liberty and claim that UN did very dumb thing.
Go figure.....

Ok I pose a question to all you na-sayers. What should be done?

I can't help but think the only reason y'all are complaining is because we are involved.

[MH]

Originally Posted by Slyguy3129

Ok I pose a question to all you na-sayers. What should be done?

I can't help but think the only reason y'all are complaining is because we are involved.

I'm not complaining i wish all the parties involved the best outcome possible.
Its just funny to see people blaming US for installing regimes in ME and then backing involvement in Libya while Arab street claiming that UN is dumb and the man should stay.

[Bilge_Rat]

Originally Posted by MH

I'm not complaining i wish all the parties involved the best outcome possible.
Its just funny to see people blaming US for installing regimes in ME and then backing involvement in Libya while Arab street claiming that UN is dumb and the man should stay.

thats not clear MH. Its hard to know where the Arab Street stands on this one since opinions appear to be all over the place.

[MH]

Originally Posted by Bilge_Rat

thats not clear MH. Its hard to know where the Arab Street stands on this one since opinions appear to be all over the place.

You are right.
I was talking to few Israeli Palestinians and their point of view was that UN and and US is driving ME toward radicalism.
Not backing Mubarak and Qaddafi was a big mistake they say.
The guys are sort of Muslims that go to Mecca once in while.

[Freiwillige]

Originally Posted by Slyguy3129

Ok I pose a question to all you na-sayers. What should be done?

I can't help but think the only reason y'all are complaining is because we are involved.

We should have done nothing. And yes I am complaining because we are involved when we should have never gotten involved. See Vietnam, Iraq and Afghanistan for reasons.

Like I said earlier, this massive civilian death toll even before our intervention was nominal at most, Saddam killed more in his sleep. I disbelieve that the civilians are getting slaughtered wholesale because there is zero credible evidence to show that they are.

More people die daily in Mexico than whats reported there. The majority of deaths in Libya appear to be willing combatants. I have no issue with that.

Then there is the argument that he will kill lots of people if we don't stop him. Conjecture and Speculation again backed by hearsay.

When it came out that western intervention forces were telling the Libyan Rebels what to say to sell their cause to the west it lost all validity in my eye's. We aren't hearing what the rebels really want were hearing what our leaders are putting in there mouths. A good indication is when they are holding sympathetic signs in English for photo ops with western media, You know darn well that these large groups holding signs don't speak English! Somebody guided them to sell there cause! Hmmm wonder who that could be

The truth will always come out and this issue has so much spin on it that its hard to see through the dazzle.

If you cant razzle dazzle em, then blind em with bull****!