Realism- and gameplay-related hardcode fixes for SH3.EXE - Page 209

Jaeger · 01-28-12, 10:33 AM

this sounds good, i hope he will be interested in this step.

Perijones · 01-29-12, 02:28 PM

I don't know if this question is already answered, but i use SH3 with GWX 3.0 and can´t install the realism fix (V16A3). The message says that the Patch_SH3.bat doesn't find a compatible version of the sh3.exe. Could anyone help me?

h.sie · 01-30-12, 02:57 AM

@Perijones: It has to be an unpatched sh3.exe. That means: no 4GB patch or similar applied.

jean74 · 01-30-12, 02:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by h.sie

@DepthCharger, complutum:

Currently, I am hardcoding all my last Test-Versions (TorpedoFailures, DieselDamage, CollisionDamage, BatteryDischarge, TorpedoPistolSwitchBugFix) and some minor corrections into the sh3.exe V16B. Also, the new VampireNightVisionFix will be added after an appropriate test period. After that, V16B will be released. Estimation: About 1 - 4 weeks.

Hi H.sie

I Had a test today with your CollisionDamage fix. I just let a T3 tanker ramming my sub and nothing happened.
I use only your v16a patch and your collision damage fix enabled with JSMGE
This fix is down ???

Best regards

Jean

h.sie · 01-30-12, 02:53 PM

@jean: please try to produce some sort of collision with a surface ship. can you see a message "Ping" on your console in the moment of collision? if not: something went wrong with the installation.

also, please try again with an escort or destroyer. i did not test with a tanker, since tankers only very seldom hunt Uboats.

jean74 · 01-30-12, 03:57 PM

Hi,

Many thanks for your fast reply

.

I'll try to do another tests, but tonight is late and tomorrow will be hard for me. So i will post result later.

Another time many thanks for all your impressive work !!!

Best regards,

Jean

h.sie · 01-30-12, 04:51 PM

Hi Jean,

I could reproduce the problem to a certain extent. If the tanker drove 7 knots, the collision damage was low, if he drove 10 knots, the damage was severe.

The attackers speed is strongly affecting the applied damage, and since an Uboat is rammed more likely by fast destroyers than by slow tankers, I optimised the fix for destroyer-Uboat collisions. Please focus on them. This fix is only a compromise and not important enough to spend more time for its optimisation.

But the final fix will have a user-customizeable factor that determines how much the taken damage is boosted compared to unpatched version.

h.sie

erikdell · 01-31-12, 08:59 AM

Excellent work!!! Greetings from Argentina!

jean74 · 02-02-12, 02:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by h.sie

Hi Jean,

I could reproduce the problem to a certain extent. If the tanker drove 7 knots, the collision damage was low, if he drove 10 knots, the damage was severe.

The attackers speed is strongly affecting the applied damage, and since an Uboat is rammed more likely by fast destroyers than by slow tankers, I optimised the fix for destroyer-Uboat collisions. Please focus on them. This fix is only a compromise and not important enough to spend more time for its optimisation.

But the final fix will have a user-customizeable factor that determines how much the taken damage is boosted compared to unpatched version.

h.sie

Hi H.sie

I don't have free time this week

and I can't do test.
Perhaps this week end but it's hard at this moment. So excuse me.

I am happy to see that you find the reason for law damage.
I will do too some tests later.

For the user-customizeable factor you are really a MASTER

Many Thanks

Best Regards from France,

Jean

h.sie · 02-02-12, 04:28 PM

Greetings back to Argentina and France!

dom111 · 02-03-12, 05:19 PM

h.sie, i have patched the .exe following your instructions with no problem at the moment, great work and thanks, keep going. But i have a question, can i use the patched .exe with other mods, specifically LSH5.1???

Best regards.

h.sie · 02-03-12, 06:54 PM

Numerous people play the hardcode fixes with LSH!

Enjoy!

dom111 · 02-04-12, 01:22 AM

Thank you very much, i will give it a try.

jean74 · 02-04-12, 04:17 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by h.sie

Hi Jean,

I could reproduce the problem to a certain extent. If the tanker drove 7 knots, the collision damage was low, if he drove 10 knots, the damage was severe.

The attackers speed is strongly affecting the applied damage, and since an Uboat is rammed more likely by fast destroyers than by slow tankers, I optimised the fix for destroyer-Uboat collisions. Please focus on them. This fix is only a compromise and not important enough to spend more time for its optimisation.

But the final fix will have a user-customizeable factor that determines how much the taken damage is boosted compared to unpatched version.

h.sie

Hi H.sie,

I did tests and of course you are right, the speed increase the damage

Do your "collision damage rate" integrate the mass of the boat which collide from ?

Best regards,

Jean

h.sie · 02-04-12, 07:31 AM

@jean: the original Collisions.act code already considers relevant parameters of the collisional objects like:

mass
armor
speed
collision impact angle
some randomness

So the devs made a good job in principle, but the overall effect on the UBoats pressure hull is too low IMO. So I programmed a factor of 8 (will be customizeable via .ini file) what means that the damage applied to the pressure hull (-> reduction of hitpoints) is boosted by 8. That's all. A simple factor of 8. Nothing more. But only for SurfaceShip-PlayerUboat collisions. All other collisions are not affected.

h.sie

01-28-12, 10:33 AM	#3121
Jaeger Chief Join Date: Jul 2005 Posts: 316 Downloads: 28 Uploads: 0	this sounds good, i hope he will be interested in this step. __________________ Everything comes to him who waits

01-30-12, 02:57 AM	#3123
h.sie Admiral Join Date: Jul 2008 Posts: 2,192 Downloads: 131 Uploads: 0	@Perijones: It has to be an unpatched sh3.exe. That means: no 4GB patch or similar applied. __________________ My Mediafire page: http://www.mediafire.com/hsie

01-30-12, 02:53 PM	#3125
h.sie Admiral Join Date: Jul 2008 Posts: 2,192 Downloads: 131 Uploads: 0	@jean: please try to produce some sort of collision with a surface ship. can you see a message "Ping" on your console in the moment of collision? if not: something went wrong with the installation. also, please try again with an escort or destroyer. i did not test with a tanker, since tankers only very seldom hunt Uboats. __________________ My Mediafire page: http://www.mediafire.com/hsie Last edited by h.sie; 01-30-12 at 03:38 PM.

01-30-12, 04:51 PM	#3127
h.sie Admiral Join Date: Jul 2008 Posts: 2,192 Downloads: 131 Uploads: 0	Hi Jean, I could reproduce the problem to a certain extent. If the tanker drove 7 knots, the collision damage was low, if he drove 10 knots, the damage was severe. The attackers speed is strongly affecting the applied damage, and since an Uboat is rammed more likely by fast destroyers than by slow tankers, I optimised the fix for destroyer-Uboat collisions. Please focus on them. This fix is only a compromise and not important enough to spend more time for its optimisation. But the final fix will have a user-customizeable factor that determines how much the taken damage is boosted compared to unpatched version. h.sie __________________ My Mediafire page: http://www.mediafire.com/hsie

02-02-12, 04:28 PM	#3130
h.sie Admiral Join Date: Jul 2008 Posts: 2,192 Downloads: 131 Uploads: 0	Greetings back to Argentina and France! __________________ My Mediafire page: http://www.mediafire.com/hsie

01-29-12, 02:28 PM	#3122
Perijones Swabbie Join Date: Jan 2008 Posts: 14 Downloads: 407 Uploads: 0	I don't know if this question is already answered, but i use SH3 with GWX 3.0 and can´t install the realism fix (V16A3). The message says that the Patch_SH3.bat doesn't find a compatible version of the sh3.exe. Could anyone help me?

01-30-12, 03:57 PM	#3126
jean74 Medic Join Date: May 2006 Location: Near Lake Leman and Geneva, FRANCE Posts: 162 Downloads: 150 Uploads: 0	Hi, Many thanks for your fast reply . I'll try to do another tests, but tonight is late and tomorrow will be hard for me. So i will post result later. Another time many thanks for all your impressive work !!! Best regards, Jean

01-31-12, 08:59 AM	#3128
erikdell Watch Join Date: Mar 2011 Location: Mar del Plata, Argentina Posts: 25 Downloads: 52 Uploads: 0	Excellent work!!! Greetings from Argentina!

02-03-12, 05:19 PM	#3131
dom111 Seaman Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Polop, Alicante (Spain) Posts: 36 Downloads: 207 Uploads: 0	h.sie, i have patched the .exe following your instructions with no problem at the moment, great work and thanks, keep going. But i have a question, can i use the patched .exe with other mods, specifically LSH5.1??? Best regards.

02-03-12, 06:54 PM	#3132
h.sie Admiral Join Date: Jul 2008 Posts: 2,192 Downloads: 131 Uploads: 0	Numerous people play the hardcode fixes with LSH! Enjoy! __________________ My Mediafire page: http://www.mediafire.com/hsie

02-04-12, 01:22 AM	#3133
dom111 Seaman Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Polop, Alicante (Spain) Posts: 36 Downloads: 207 Uploads: 0	Thank you very much, i will give it a try.

02-04-12, 07:31 AM	#3135
h.sie Admiral Join Date: Jul 2008 Posts: 2,192 Downloads: 131 Uploads: 0	@jean: the original Collisions.act code already considers relevant parameters of the collisional objects like: mass armor speed collision impact angle some randomness So the devs made a good job in principle, but the overall effect on the UBoats pressure hull is too low IMO. So I programmed a factor of 8 (will be customizeable via .ini file) what means that the damage applied to the pressure hull (-> reduction of hitpoints) is boosted by 8. That's all. A simple factor of 8. Nothing more. But only for SurfaceShip-PlayerUboat collisions. All other collisions are not affected. h.sie __________________ My Mediafire page: http://www.mediafire.com/hsie