US Politics Thread 2021-24

[Catfish]

Originally Posted by August

How many times have we heard that crap since Trump came down the elevator? [...]

Maybe as often as Trump almost had a stroke claiming he won the election?
Maybe because there is some truth, you know "no smoke without a fire" and all that. I heard some Hannity or Tucker lover built a whole campaign on lies and half truths, so why so picky now?

[em2nought]

Originally Posted by August

How many times have we heard that crap since Trump came down the elevator?

I'm betting they'll coerce Ghislaine Maxwell into falsely testifying that Trump was one of the beautiful people who had sex with underage girls on Epstein's Island.

[Rockstar]

Go suck eggs you fascist democrat liberal mandate Nazis. Your party leaders were prepared to do your bidding of locking up your fellow citizens, taking children from their Parents and sending the unbelievers of your man god Fauci to prison.

All you got is some old Blue anon conspiracy theory about Trump? You are that very thing you feared the most. Bunch of facistl mandate nazi kooks. Hurry along now Covidian cult members go get your daily booster.

[Rockstar]

Trump so called “half truths and lies” are nothing more than kook liberal hive mind conspiracy theories. All of which are so very old and worn out, a horse that died along time ago. Here’s a news flash for the hangers on, Trump lost the election last year, he doesn’t matter.

This is the here and now. A democrat conspiracy theory dream come true; a president who has already suggested the next election to be illegitimate.

[nikimcbee]

Originally Posted by Rockstar

Go suck eggs you fascist democrat liberal mandate Nazis. Your party leaders were prepared to do your bidding of locking up your fellow citizens, taking children from their Parents and sending the unbelievers of your man god Fauci to prison.

All you got is some old Blue anon conspiracy theory about Trump? You are that very thing you feared the most. Bunch of facistl mandate nazi kooks. Hurry along now Covidian cult members go get your daily booster.

Ditto, can't wait for the dust to settle on this, and we get the actual numbers on this. Great podcast Rockstar. I've never heard of that guy before, where is he from?

[ET2SN]

Originally Posted by nikimcbee

I've never heard of that guy before, where is he from?

A group called The Young Turks but they had a falling out.

[Rockstar]

Jimmy Dore is according to his own words a pothead broadcasting from his garage and a socialist. About as left wing as they come. Other than his current commentary on COVID politics and so called science there is little to nothing else he says I agree with.

IMO he’s a hoot.

Another favorite

Looking at the kook fringe Covidian cult liberal mandate Nazis belief in their right to rule over others and the extent they would go to in order to control other peoples lives and bodies “I can understand how 1933 happened”.

[August]

Originally Posted by Catfish

Maybe as often as Trump almost had a stroke claiming he won the election?
Maybe because there is some truth, you know "no smoke without a fire" and all that. I heard some Hannity or Tucker lover built a whole campaign on lies and half truths, so why so picky now?

Lame.

[nikimcbee]

Originally Posted by ET2SN

A group called The Young Turks but they had a falling out.

LOL, no way, really? I've heard of them and can't stand them.

[ET2SN]

Originally Posted by nikimcbee

LOL, no way, really? I've heard of them and can't stand them.

Jimmy was the guy who had a bar fight with Alex Jones, live and in color, from the press suites during the democratic national convention. It took almost an entire micro second to get his credentials revoked.

Its none of my business, but you might want to be a little more careful in how you pick your prophets.

[nikimcbee]

Originally Posted by ET2SN

Jimmy was the guy who had a bar fight with Alex Jones, live and in color, from the press suites during the democratic national convention. It took almost an entire micro second to get his credentials revoked.

Its none of my business, but you might want to be a little more careful in how you pick your prophets.

I didn't realize how much I've tuned out all this (political) BS. I guess I missed the show.

[August]

I believe this to be a very illuminating article. It's idea that the Deep State is not a "conspiracy or a cabal" but as he put it "a consortium of shared statist assumptions propelled by high-minded or financial self-interest." mirrors my own beliefs on the subject of what the Federal Government has become.



Anyways it's a good read. Here's the first few paragraphs and a link to the article below (I bolded what I thought are particularly good passages):

The deep state is no conspiracy theory

Progressive monoculture has enveloped many of our private and public institutions. Aldous Huxley saw it coming

January 19, 2022 | 10:56 am


In 1958, Aldous Huxley foresaw a congestion of power able to shape and defy popular will. “Under the relentless thrust of accelerating over-population and increasing over-organization, and by means of ever more effective methods of mind-manipulation, the democracies will change their nature,” he predicted. “The quaint old forms—elections, parliaments, Supreme Courts and all the rest—will remain. The underlying substance will be a new kind of non-violent totalitarianism.”
The changes, according to the author of Brave New World, would be almost imperceptible. “All the traditional names, all the hallowed slogans will remain exactly what they were in the good old days. Democracy and freedom will be the theme of every broadcast and editorial,” he continued. “Meanwhile the ruling oligarchy and its highly trained elite of soldiers, policemen, thought-manufacturers and mind-manipulators will quietly run the show as they see fit.”
The Deep State today is Huxley’s prophesy arrived. Like it or not, Americans live inside a power complex and thought machine that radiates from Washington, DC. Concentrated in blue metro counties and states, its moving parts and wheels, as with a clock, enable us to live in the exacting polity, economy, and culture that we do.
In lofty circles, it is said that the Deep State is a far-right conspiracy theory, nothing more. The very words elicit an eye-roll and a smirk. But what else synchronizes uncountable public agencies and their private-sector partners — wink-wink — in the absence of executive statesmanship? What has made the wheels of government go round and round this last year, and if we are honest, for a very long time?
Surface government, elected and appointed, is only its polished clock-face. Television and newspapers report the ticks and tocks daily. Right now, this clock-face looks like something melting, or covered with ants, a surreal dreamscape straight out of Salvador Dali.
Seeking to federalize election rules, in Atlanta last week, Joe Biden and Kamala Harris compared last year’s Capitol riot to Pearl Harbor and 9/11. Biden likened adversaries of “voting rights” to the ardent segregationists of the 1960s.
The spectacularly inept Harris matters because Biden’s crumbling façade could collapse at any minute. And there she is, the nation’s prospective jeweler-in-chief, the overseer of what Charles Hugh Smith schematizes as “a vast structure that incorporates hard and soft power — military, diplomatic, intelligence, finance, commercial, energy, media, higher education — in a system of global domination and influence.”
The Deep State is not a conspiracy or a cabal but a consortium of shared statist assumptions propelled by high-minded or financial self-interest. K Street’s mercenary lobbyists push boondoggles. True believers and single-interest advocacies pride themselves on their tunnel vision. The actual bandits are few.
The Deep State includes the federal civil service and its satellites in states, counties and municipalities, funded by and loyal to central power. It includes the military forces and defense industry; money, banking, credit, and finance; research universities; oil and energy, transportation, housing, food, and utilities; and, of course, the all-important electronic ether.

https://spectatorworld.com/topic/dee...no-conspiracy/

[mapuc]

Wondered what this Deep State was so I made a search and found this article

“Mr. Trump’s response,” the authors write, “was colored by his suspicion of and disdain for what he viewed as the ‘deep state,’ the very people in his government whose expertise and long experience might have guided him more quickly toward steps that would slow the virus, and likely save lives.”

https://www.vox.com/policy-and-polit...ia-david-rohde

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[Rockstar]

[mapuc]

It looks like I missed the point so please enlighten me-Teach me more about this Deep State.

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