Malaysia airlines B777 missing

[Dread Knot]

CNN lately seems to be morphing into the SyFy channel regarding their reporting of Flight 370. Last night they 1) Reported that the "partner of a passenger" felt it in her gut that he was still alive. 2) Broadcast an unconfirmed video they found on YouTube that appeared to show the pilots passing through security, 3) Presented a scenario where one of the pilots crawled into the planes equipment bay and carefully unplugged cables to disable the communications systems.

What's next, calling-in the psychics and dowsers? Calling John Edward...

[Herr-Berbunch]

Who keeps mentioning 45,000 feet? My mate's a 777 pilot for Emirates, the other week he stuck a photo on FB of his alt at 43k and said they only had 100 feet left and that was the highest he'd ever been since as a passenger on Concorde, and he was transiting with no pax or freight. Gaining another two thousand feet whilst loaded seemed to me to be extremely difficult.

Unless there's much of a difference in engine power...

[Dread Knot]

The downside of crowd-sourcing. Courtney Love thinks she found the plane. Her MS-Paint skillz are rather impressive.

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/pe...0-9198965.html

[Flamebatter90]

Does not sound too far fetched:
https://plus.google.com/106271056358...ts/GoeVjHJaGBz

[GoldenRivet]

Probably the most logical conclusion yet

[Admiral Halsey]

A fire? What's the longest a jet has flown while on fire?

[Dread Knot]

Originally Posted by Admiral Halsey

A fire? What's the longest a jet has flown while on fire?

While making several turns at waypoints to boot.

[GoldenRivet]

Originally Posted by Admiral Halsey

A fire? What's the longest a jet has flown while on fire?

Its possible that the fire was extinguished, but the crew was left overcome by smoke. Not extraordinarily likely - but plausible.

Originally Posted by Dread Knot

While making several turns at waypoints to boot.

Assuming the FMS was operational and the diversion to an alternate was programmed into it (basically typing in the airport identifier and selecting an arrival from the list of procedures) the autopilot would have flown the whole segment until it reached the last waypoint and then would have probably defaulted to heading mode and synched the autopilot to continue on that heading until the pilot told it what to do from there. No conscious pilot translates to no FMS interruption translates to hold what you got til ya run outta gas

[swamprat69er]

Originally Posted by GoldenRivet

Probably the most logical conclusion yet

I agree.

Originally Posted by Dread Knot

Courtney Love thinks she found the plane.

Time for some more rehab I think.

[Dread Knot]

Originally Posted by GoldenRivet

Its possible that the fire was extinguished, but the crew was left overcome by smoke. Not extraordinarily likely - but plausible.

Assuming the FMS was operational and the diversion to an alternate was programmed into it (basically typing in the airport identifier and selecting an arrival from the list of procedures) the autopilot would have flown the whole segment until it reached the last waypoint and then would have probably defaulted to heading mode and synched the autopilot to continue on that heading until the pilot told it what to do from there. No conscious pilot translates to no FMS interruption translates to hold what you got til ya run outta gas

I guess I'm still having a hard time with this scenario. The hypothetical fire is serious enough that the pilots just have a fleeting moment to reprogram the autopilot and have no time to communicate with anybody about their problems. But for some reason this same event causes the transponder and the ACARS to fail at about the same time but leaves the flight deck in good enough shape that the autopilot can continue to control the aircraft for hours.

And either the incident is so serious that it disables the rest of the people on the plane or the locked flight deck door prevents people from taking control of the aircraft after the pilots are incapacitated. But why no desperate cell phone calls for help from the passengers? It seems for every theory there are holes big enough to fly a 777 through.

[Wolferz]

Somebody on that flight got merced... along with everyone else.

[Mr Quatro]

Originally Posted by Herr-Berbunch

Who keeps mentioning 45,000 feet? My mate's a 777 pilot for Emirates, the other week he stuck a photo on FB of his alt at 43k and said they only had 100 feet left and that was the highest he'd ever been since as a passenger on Concorde, and he was transiting with no pax or freight. Gaining another two thousand feet whilst loaded seemed to me to be extremely difficult.

Unless there's much of a difference in engine power...

Good point Herr-Berbunch

I got the 45,000 ft figure from CNN news, but I don't know where they got it from. CNN has also said that experts say no way can a Boeing 777 go up that far and then back down again in a short amount of time that they reported the plane did fly back to 23,000 ft level.

I can't figure out where they get the figure 5,000 ft either in saying that it flew back over the country of Malaysia at that height.

Most non military radars don't give altitude information from the signal of the radar at the tower, but depend on the transponder of the aircraft to relay that information to them ... all that leaves is Vietnam or Thailand or Malaysia itself with their military radars to report the altitude.

Lets say whoever is reporting this information is correct and the experts say the planes wings would fall off if it is by the way?

Lets say it did go that high ... why?

A struggle in the cockpit perhaps with the co-pilot pulling back on the yoke till the plane could go no higher?

The oxygen mask would've deployed ... the oxygen generator is only good for 15 minutes by the way and cell phones don't work if the plane is over 10,000 ft, as reported in the 911 crisis in which happen to be around cell phone towers.

Within say 12 minutes all the passengers are dead running out of air with the cockpit still having a separate supply of air.

Then the plane goes down to the deck of 5,000 ft to fly over Malaysia?

We don't have all of the information we need to make a sensible connection to a take over or the pilots themselves.

That plane that crashed on the way to France took two years to find and that's after they found parts in the water.

Sounds like a struggle to live happened in that cockpit and now why did the plane continue on for 6 hours?

Can the auto-pilot be turned off and the plane turned manually and then the auto-pilot be turned back on again with a new low ceiling of 5,000 feet dialed in?

Everyone says the computer had to be programed, but I'm not so sure of this.

In fact I can't see how the pilots could sit there in the cockpit for 6 to 7 hours waiting to die.

Could it be that everyone including the pilot and co-pilot were already dead?

One side note of humor ... did you notice the picture of the pilot wearing a tee-shirt with a submarine on it? Could he be a subsimmer

[nikimcbee]

What really happened...


oops, I hit the plane.


Coming to a tele near you.
They're baaaack.

[donna52522]

Originally Posted by Flamebatter90

Does not sound too far fetched:
https://plus.google.com/106271056358...ts/GoeVjHJaGBz

More plausible than anything else I read in this thread, especially compared to the one about the aircraft being whisked away to a secret location to be used in the future...Even Hollywood wouldn't back a script like that, they'd have a better shot at selling Swampthing VI.