Will the DRM affect your Purchase?

Originally Posted by onelifecrisis

Uh... what!?

You're saying it's okay for them to exclude everyone who can't afford a few thousand dollars worth of gaming hardware, but it's wrong of them to exclude those who can't afford/obtain a solid internet connection? Where is the logic in that?

nothing in my words speak to the system requirements for the game issue, that is a seperate question altogether.

what i am saying is exactly what i said and dont lump it into any asumptions about any other aspects of the concerns over sh5

[609_Avatar]

I was planning on buying this one but after hearing that they will follow suit with the Rise of Flight attempt at this (which is rumored to be taken away for single player due to the outcry against it) form of DMR I have decided that SH4 will probably be my last purchase of this type. If they ever do remove the DMR I will then revisit this decision. Too bad really and I feel for the developers.

[THE_MASK]

The internet reliability is not an issue for me , but the reliability of the servers Ubi would use is .

[Der Teddy Bar]

Originally Posted by longam

Just posted this in another thread but wanted to mirror here......

I just downloaded the ROF demo and played it with DRM and it really wasn't that much different then without it.

I don't know, I'm starting to think we don't want it because it has become the norm of the forum to see negative.

I have to trust on a stable internet connection to a server somewhere in someplace everyday for our corp email and ISP to work. You have to trust on a server somewhere and someplace to get on the internet everyday. You have to trust on a server somewhere and someplace to be here and posting everyday.

I'm changing my view and buying SH5 with or without DRM. I just hope that it makes a difference on piracy so we can have some great games to come in the future.

longam

longam,

Let me repost my experience with having RoF before they remove the always online 'feature'...

I am a fool and at this moment in time I feel I would have been better pissing my money up against the wall.

I have been a abstainer of RoF because of the 'always online' but with Jason's news about the removal of the 'always online', the quick battle generator and hints that RoF has some better direction happening And the 50% off for the demo upgrade I thought I could not loose...

But that feeling lasted less than 4 hours with about 30 minutes of game time.

I would be playing right now if I did not have a "your connection to the master-server was temporarily lost. Check your internet-connection"

I feel so embarrassed to have been suckered into buying RoF

Add to this I am moving house in a month, again and when my house is finished in September. During this time I expect to be without internet for 2 weeks minimum.

2 weeks in which I cannot play any 'always online' game. FFS.

Also as noted in an earlier post, over the last 4 years I would have been unable to play any 'always online' game for some 21 weeks or 5.1 months, this is unacceptable.

[Jimbuna]

Originally Posted by longam

But I'm going to be a strong believer that they will back down and remove DRM after the profits are made to keep down on expenditures after the fact. UBI isnt going to spend money on increasing or updating if they dont have to.

I have posted similarly on another thread.

Originally Posted by sober

The internet reliability is not an issue for me , but the reliability of the servers Ubi would use is .

Precisely.

[tonschk]

Originally Posted by longam

Just posted this in another thread but wanted to mirror here......

I just downloaded the ROF demo and played it with DRM and it really wasn't that much different then without it.

I don't know, I'm starting to think we don't want it because it has become the norm of the forum to see negative.

I have to trust on a stable internet connection to a server somewhere in someplace everyday for our corp email and ISP to work. You have to trust on a server somewhere and someplace to get on the internet everyday. You have to trust on a server somewhere and someplace to be here and posting everyday.

I'm changing my view and buying SH5 with or without DRM. I just hope that it makes a difference on piracy so we can have some great games to come in the future.

longam

I Agree With You I AM addicted just to the SILENT HUNTER Series and I Play anything else on my PC ,...... Therefore without a doubt I will BUY this SILENT HUNTER 5 game
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[Onkel Neal]

There may possibly be a couple thousand people who will not buy SH5 out of principle, it will not have a big impact on sales.

[Letum]

Originally Posted by Neal Stevens

There may possibly be a couple thousand people who will not buy SH5 out of principle, it will not have a big impact on sales.

Seeing as it has effected ~85% of sales here, I think it's safe to assume
it will effect at least 10% of sales elsewhere.
We arn't that unrepresentative here.

I don't know what kind of margins Ubi works on, but that certainly isn't
an insignificant impact.

[Onkel Neal]

It's never safe to assume but 85% of the people who have taken the time to vote in this poll is only 900 people. That's not many when a game sells 90,000 copies, barely .1% Multiplay that by 10 for all the sub gamers who don't speak English and do not vote here, you have 1%.

And how many of the 1% who say they will not get the game will cave in and buy it? What's your guess?

[Rip]

Originally Posted by Letum

Seeing as it has effected ~85% of sales here, I think it's safe to assume
it will effect at least 10% of sales elsewhere.
We arn't that unrepresentative here.

I don't know what kind of margins Ubi works on, but that certainly isn't
an insignificant impact.

Keep in mind it isn't just SHV. I have Assassin's Creed and won't buy 2 because of this and I am quite sure I am not alone. Then when the inevitable downtimes happen they will regularly piss off their customers. A class action suit cannot be far off.

[Onkel Neal]

Class action based on what? You didn't buy the game

This reminds me of the upraor when it was announced SH3 would only come on a DVD There were demands it should come on a CD, people didn't want to buy an expensive new DVD player. Not to mention the fellow who insisted it should come on 26 floppies


Did AC2 sales suffer? Not from what I hear.

Although Modern Warfare 2 is still at the top of all UK sales charts Assassin’s Creed 2’s launch has been extremely successful, so successful that its sales figures are more impressive than the original Assassin’s Creed.
According to a recent article posted on Joystiq in total sales of the game outperformed the original by 12 percent (in terms of unit sales).

[Rip]

Originally Posted by Neal Stevens

It's never safe to assume but 85% of the people who have taken the time to vote in this poll is only 900 people. That's not many when a game sells 90,000 copies, barely .1% Multiplay that by 10 for all the sub gamers who don't speak English and do not vote here, you have 1%.

And how many of the 1% who say they will not get the game will cave in and buy it? What's your guess?

Ahh but it is a survey although not well balanced one. I expect all non-MMO games they do this in will have major outcry about it. Even my MMO titles like L4D let me play in SP if they have it without constant connection. **** look at how irate the MMO players get when there are server outages and they know they have good reason to not be able to play. Getting kicked out of SP games because of internet connection or server issues are going to be severe IMHO. We should know in the next year or so.

[KL-alfman]

Originally Posted by Neal Stevens

Not to mention the fellow who insisted it should come on 26 floppies

3 1/2'' or 5 1/4'' ??

[Rip]

Originally Posted by Neal Stevens

Class action based on what? You didn't buy the game

This remonds me of the upraor when it was announced SH3 would only come on a DVD There were demands it should come on a CD, people didn't want to buy an expensive new DVD player. Not to mention the fellow who insisted it should come on 26 floppies

Not yet but I will. If for no other reason than to make sure I am eligible for the class action.

However I still expect them to "discover" a way to allow offline play with occasional calls home. There is simply no reasonable reason not to.

[artao]

I want SH V on 10" disks!!