Who will win the 2020 US Presidential Election? - Page 20

Catfish · 11-04-20, 01:45 PM

Can anyone even imagine how completely megalomaniac Trump will become when he really wins? And what this will mean to handling the pandemic, let alone the further "rebuilding" the US democratic system?

Bilge_Rat · 11-04-20, 01:52 PM

Trump is exactly where 66 million + americans want him.

u crank · 11-04-20, 02:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Catfish

Can anyone even imagine how completely megalomaniac Trump will become when he really wins? And what this will mean to handling the pandemic, let alone the further "rebuilding" the US democratic system?

If Trump wins it is possible that both his supporters and his detractors may be disappointed in some ways. Second term Presidents are no longer concerned about re-election. Case in point ... Obama.

Skybird · 11-04-20, 02:31 PM

Already months ago I said a Trump not needing to care for getting reelected will act even more relentlessly than he had in his first term. Or as somebody from his closest circle put it some time ago: "Second term will be Shock&Awe!" -

We have a clear winner of the election, btw. The Kremlin. No matter which name it will be, the result will always cause further long times, months and years with America being interested mainly in itself and not being able to get into the way of Russian geostrategic interests, especially those pushed forward by creatiugn hard facts on the ground. The Russians have America were they always wanted it to: completely absorbed with its own inner conflicts. Better outcome they could not have hoped for: the ununited and divided states of America is a reality now. And there is big hope for getting even more polarization and windeing hgaps and desintegration of national integrity. Additionally, a process was was established of growign erosion of trust into state institutions, laws, courts. More destruction you cannot trigger without launching a cyberwar and starting to switch off water dam controls, traffic lights, airport system and power grids - or starting to drop bombs and shooting missiles. For them, launching Trump successfully was like firing a self-steering cruise missile with multiple fragmentation warheads that homed in onto its target autonomously. And the Americans still do not get it, do not want to get it!

Skybird · 11-04-20, 02:49 PM

Biden won the public vote, btw, with a lead of 2-3% and more total votes for him than any candidate and president in the American history ever has collected before him.

When will they ever skip this fraudelnt election system? Do people even realise that they accept that the votes of people from different places have different weights, and the vote of the one guys count more and the votes of the others count less, depending only on which side of ink lines on maps they live ?

Trump is right, the election is in danger of gettign stolen once again, like many times before. By the election system itself. (And if that does not help, by his minions).

AVGWarhawk · 11-04-20, 02:59 PM

Standing by for Hunter Biden Gate and what is on his laptop! So goes politics in America.

The media will have nothing to talk about now. Who will they bash and belittle? The late night comedians/show hosts...what will their monologue consist of? SNL(Saturday Night Live) will have nothing for the show.....

However, Gaffer Joe....we will be in for some fun gibberish and gaffs!

Catfish · 11-04-20, 03:24 PM

Really strange, Alaska is clearly for Trump despite that?
“America’s Amazon” is being sold to China, at a huge cost to the environment, and a net loss to taxpayers"

https://www.outsideonline.com/241832...l-forest#close

The US left the international Paris climate treaty today (only country in the world), but what does Alaska's citizens think it will do for them when it is sold to China. Short-term jobs and then nothing?

August · 11-04-20, 03:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Skybird

Biden won the public vote, btw, with a lead of 2-3% and more total votes for him than any candidate and president in the American history ever has collected before him.

When will they ever skip this fraudelnt election system?

When will you realize that our system was deliberately designed that way for very specific reasons that are just as valid today as they were back then. I'm not going to bother explaining them to you, again, ------

skidman · 11-04-20, 04:25 PM

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Originally Posted by AVGWarhawk

Standing by for Hunter Biden Gate and what is on his laptop!

Aaaahhh, finally: The laptop from hell.

I hope u crank was right: This piece of defective hardware will only surface if Biden wins. If the orange imbecile wins, the public will forget it even existed. So maybe this is like Judas Iscariot in the Garden of Gethsemane. My prophecy: As soon as the laptop from hell is written about on the forum for the third time from now on, we can be sure Biden has come through.

LoH-count = 1

Skybird · 11-04-20, 04:44 PM

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Originally Posted by skidman

Hm. Seems that even hell is not what it once used to be anymore. Climate cooling?

u crank · 11-04-20, 04:46 PM

Well if Biden does win things won't be that much fun in the Whitehouse for the Democratic administration. It looks pretty certain that the GOP will retain control of the Senate. Good luck in appointing lefty judges or court packing. And of course the Supreme court is now a pretty solid Conservative outfit thanks to Trump and McConnell so no joy there. And it looks like Pelosi's majority will be reduced so if Joe trys to get cute with executive orders that hurt the American economy, look for a blood bath in the 2020 midterms.

Catfish · 11-04-20, 04:58 PM

"Mr Trump has made clear that he intends to use legal actions to secure his re-election and that he expects the Supreme Court to ultimately rule in his favour in any dispute."

Ah.

mapuc · 11-04-20, 05:01 PM

Some input to your comment.

So this should be Biden's famous Laptop. It looks like someone has gone mad with a hammer..which will not help as long the HDD/RAM/motherboard is not damage/smaller damage.

When Reagan was in Charge the Dems had majority in both Congress and Senate-despite this he manage to get many of his thing through both chamber.

Trump demands a recount in one of the Swing state-He has the right to demand this..if the authorities will approve this is another question.

Trump want the count of votes being stopped-Even here he has the right to demand this....If Supreme court approve this is another question.

I try to imagine what will happen in the street IF Biden leads with 258 something electoral votes and the Supreme court approve Trumps demand and order a stop in counting votes.

Or if Supreme court goes against Trump.

Markus

Skybird · 11-04-20, 05:01 PM

Biden 253 : 214 now (NBC), with a tight lead in Nevada and a solid lead in Arizona, which would bring the missing 11 + 6 .

The mobster than will start operation coup d'etat via court abuse. Maybe he is speculating for the chaos that breaks out if Biden dies due to age during the ongoing process...

Will there be a boxed version of this game? I start to find some taste in it. Title could be "Les règles c'est moi"

Catfish · 11-04-20, 05:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by August

When will you realize that our system was deliberately designed that way for very specific reasons that are just as valid today as they were back then. I'm not going to bother explaining them to you, again [...].

So yes, they made it that way. It is the electorate that counts. If Biden wins (not sure yet), will you accept the outcome, or will Trump?

Also it was never a good system:
"George Washington’s farewell address is often remembered for its warning against hyper-partisanship:
“The alternate domination of one faction over another, sharpened by the spirit of revenge, natural to party dissension, which in different ages and countries has perpetrated the most horrid enormities, is itself a frightful despotism.”"

View Poll Results: Who do you think will win the 2020 US Presidential Election?
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Good ol' Joe	20	36.36%
Ross Perot	5	9.09%
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11-04-20, 01:45 PM	#286
Catfish Dipped Squirrel Operative Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: ..where the ocean meets the sky Posts: 16,926 Downloads: 38 Uploads: 0	Can anyone even imagine how completely megalomaniac Trump will become when he really wins? And what this will mean to handling the pandemic, let alone the further "rebuilding" the US democratic system? __________________ >^..^<*)))>{ All generalizations are wrong.

11-04-20, 01:52 PM	#287
Bilge_Rat Silent Hunter Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: standing watch... Posts: 3,793 Downloads: 344 Uploads: 0	Trump is exactly where 66 million + americans want him. __________________

11-04-20, 02:31 PM	#289
Skybird Soaring Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: the mental asylum named Germany Posts: 40,710 Downloads: 9 Uploads: 0	Already months ago I said a Trump not needing to care for getting reelected will act even more relentlessly than he had in his first term. Or as somebody from his closest circle put it some time ago: "Second term will be Shock&Awe!" - We have a clear winner of the election, btw. The Kremlin. No matter which name it will be, the result will always cause further long times, months and years with America being interested mainly in itself and not being able to get into the way of Russian geostrategic interests, especially those pushed forward by creatiugn hard facts on the ground. The Russians have America were they always wanted it to: completely absorbed with its own inner conflicts. Better outcome they could not have hoped for: the ununited and divided states of America is a reality now. And there is big hope for getting even more polarization and windeing hgaps and desintegration of national integrity. Additionally, a process was was established of growign erosion of trust into state institutions, laws, courts. More destruction you cannot trigger without launching a cyberwar and starting to switch off water dam controls, traffic lights, airport system and power grids - or starting to drop bombs and shooting missiles. For them, launching Trump successfully was like firing a self-steering cruise missile with multiple fragmentation warheads that homed in onto its target autonomously. And the Americans still do not get it, do not want to get it! __________________ If you feel nuts, consult an expert. Last edited by Skybird; 11-04-20 at 02:42 PM.

11-04-20, 02:49 PM	#290
Skybird Soaring Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: the mental asylum named Germany Posts: 40,710 Downloads: 9 Uploads: 0	Biden won the public vote, btw, with a lead of 2-3% and more total votes for him than any candidate and president in the American history ever has collected before him. When will they ever skip this fraudelnt election system? Do people even realise that they accept that the votes of people from different places have different weights, and the vote of the one guys count more and the votes of the others count less, depending only on which side of ink lines on maps they live ? Trump is right, the election is in danger of gettign stolen once again, like many times before. By the election system itself. (And if that does not help, by his minions). __________________ If you feel nuts, consult an expert.

11-04-20, 02:59 PM	#291
AVGWarhawk Lucky Jack Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: In a 1954 Buick. Posts: 27,343 Downloads: 90 Uploads: 0	Standing by for Hunter Biden Gate and what is on his laptop! So goes politics in America. The media will have nothing to talk about now. Who will they bash and belittle? The late night comedians/show hosts...what will their monologue consist of? SNL(Saturday Night Live) will have nothing for the show..... However, Gaffer Joe....we will be in for some fun gibberish and gaffs! __________________ “You're painfully alive in a drugged and dying culture.” ― Richard Yates, Revolutionary Road

11-04-20, 03:24 PM	#292
Catfish Dipped Squirrel Operative Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: ..where the ocean meets the sky Posts: 16,926 Downloads: 38 Uploads: 0	Really strange, Alaska is clearly for Trump despite that? “America’s Amazon” is being sold to China, at a huge cost to the environment, and a net loss to taxpayers" https://www.outsideonline.com/241832...l-forest#close The US left the international Paris climate treaty today (only country in the world), but what does Alaska's citizens think it will do for them when it is sold to China. Short-term jobs and then nothing? __________________ >^..^<*)))>{ All generalizations are wrong.

11-04-20, 04:46 PM	#296
u crank Old enough to know better Join Date: Dec 2011 Location: Prince Edward Island Posts: 11,569 Downloads: 136 Uploads: 0	Well if Biden does win things won't be that much fun in the Whitehouse for the Democratic administration. It looks pretty certain that the GOP will retain control of the Senate. Good luck in appointing lefty judges or court packing. And of course the Supreme court is now a pretty solid Conservative outfit thanks to Trump and McConnell so no joy there. And it looks like Pelosi's majority will be reduced so if Joe trys to get cute with executive orders that hurt the American economy, look for a blood bath in the 2020 midterms. __________________ “Two possibilities exist: either we are alone in the Universe or we are not. Both are equally terrifying.” ― Arthur C. Clarke

11-04-20, 04:58 PM	#297
Catfish Dipped Squirrel Operative Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: ..where the ocean meets the sky Posts: 16,926 Downloads: 38 Uploads: 0	"Mr Trump has made clear that he intends to use legal actions to secure his re-election* and that he expects the Supreme Court to ultimately rule in his favour in any dispute."* Ah. __________________ >^..^<*)))>{ All generalizations are wrong.

11-04-20, 05:01 PM	#298
mapuc Fleet Admiral Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Denmark Posts: 18,232 Downloads: 37 Uploads: 0	Some input to your comment. So this should be Biden's famous Laptop. It looks like someone has gone mad with a hammer..which will not help as long the HDD/RAM/motherboard is not damage/smaller damage. When Reagan was in Charge the Dems had majority in both Congress and Senate-despite this he manage to get many of his thing through both chamber. Trump demands a recount in one of the Swing state-He has the right to demand this..if the authorities will approve this is another question. Trump want the count of votes being stopped-Even here he has the right to demand this....If Supreme court approve this is another question. I try to imagine what will happen in the street IF Biden leads with 258 something electoral votes and the Supreme court approve Trumps demand and order a stop in counting votes. Or if Supreme court goes against Trump. Markus

11-04-20, 05:01 PM	#299
Skybird Soaring Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: the mental asylum named Germany Posts: 40,710 Downloads: 9 Uploads: 0	Biden 253 : 214 now (NBC), with a tight lead in Nevada and a solid lead in Arizona, which would bring the missing 11 + 6 . The mobster than will start operation coup d'etat via court abuse. Maybe he is speculating for the chaos that breaks out if Biden dies due to age during the ongoing process... Will there be a boxed version of this game? I start to find some taste in it. Title could be "Les règles c'est moi" __________________ If you feel nuts, consult an expert.