Iraq policy shifting soon?

[fredbass]

Originally Posted by August

We never intended to stay there forever.

Rebuilding Iraq will require a sustained commitment from many nations, including our own: we will remain in Iraq as long as necessary, and not a day more."

-- President George W. Bush

February 26, 2003

....

I can always count on you for the truth. Good Job.

[Coda]

Originally Posted by August

And no, most Americans don't think the Democrats are more competant in areas of national security....

I love it. It is hilarious when people outside the US tell us what we think.

Most Americans KNOW that republicans place a higher priority on national security than democrats.

[HunterICX]

Originally Posted by Coda

I love it. It is hilarious when people outside the US tell us what we think.

Most Americans KNOW that republicans place a higher priority on national security than democrats.

:hmm: O rly, but they dont seeming to care about the american citizens.
take Katrina hurricane for example...they let those people down. they didnt spend much of work helping them...and I might not be right on this one...but just because they where blacks?

and why do they let an private plane of a baseball player fly over NY.
I thought they should prevent that an airplane should fly over that city , just in case. :hmm:

[The Avon Lady]

Originally Posted by HunterICX

but just because they where blacks?

This is bald faced fiction.

and why do they let an private plane of a baseball player fly over NY.
I thought they should prevent that an airplane should fly over that city , just in case. :hmm:

US security stinks and that's the truth.

[Coda]

Originally Posted by HunterICX

:hmm: O rly, but they dont seeming to care about the american citizens.
take Katrina hurricane for example...they let those people down. they didnt spend much of work helping them...and I might not be right on this one...but just because they where blacks?

and why do they let an private plane of a baseball player fly over NY.
I thought they should prevent that an airplane should fly over that city , just in case. :hmm:

Katrina's initial failures were the result of recent government re-shuffles of departments under homeland security and mis-communications. The press made it look worse than it was. If you ask me how I know, I lived near there at the time in Houston. I went there with supplies and to help.

There were billions of dollars spent housing, feeding and rebuilding after the initial frenzy. It's only the foolish that think that America "didn't care". That's just an assinine uneducated statement.

Do you do anything to help? Did your country? Did you do anything to help the tsunami victims, the earthquake victims, and any other natural disaster that happens anywhere in the world? If you haven't noticed, the US is usually the first in line to offer a helping hand.

Private planes are allowed to fly because the pilot is an American. General aviation has been around since the first airplane flight took place [in America] and it is a hobby and convenience Americans enjoy, myself included. I'm a private pilot.

America isn't going to run scared every time something bad happens. We aren't going to curtail any of our enjoyed freedoms because of some lunatic who exploited a vulnerability. If you knew how much harder it is for me to just grab a flight on any given weekend now, you'd know better. Airport security is tighter at general aviation airports now, tighter than commercial in my opinion.


Sure, things aren't perfect here, but they are sure a hell of a lot better than other countries. Why don't you go pick on them?

[bradclark1]

Originally Posted by HunterICX

:hmm: O rly, but they dont seeming to care about the american citizens.
take Katrina hurricane for example...they let those people down. they didnt spend much of work helping them...and I might not be right on this one...but just because they where blacks?

I'd say you weren't right. But I would assume that that statement is just a dig.

[/quote]

and why do they let an private plane of a baseball player fly over NY.
I thought they should prevent that an airplane should fly over that city , just in case. :hmm:

They can fly along the river without a flight plan. Other then that you have to register a flight plan. The thinking behind the accident is that he was flying a high performance aircraft and was going too fast in the turn and hence ran into the building.

[Skybird]

Originally Posted by Coda

I love it. It is hilarious when people outside the US tell us what we think.

Most Americans KNOW that republicans place a higher priority on national security than democrats.

Before interfering with an ongoing debate, please make sure you red the thread carefully.

I did not told anybody what Americans think, but it is American polling institutes doing so. To their findings I refer.

Noone said that demcrats place a higher priority on security than republicans. The polls since mid spetmeber show that public opinion in the Us has rated democart's competence as higher for the first time since many years, as far as I do know) than that of the republicans (for whom security usually is a safe bank).

Thanks for shooting the messenger (again). If I would get a dollar for every bullet that hit me in the last three years, I would be a rich man today.

[Skybird]

http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/thereporters/

[Coda]

Originally Posted by Skybird

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/americas/6057740.stm

Latest polls show that Bush not only has lost the majority of Americans to support his views on Iraq, they also show that currently the democrats are thought to have better competence in the traditional field of Republican's strength: security in general.

Why aren't you upset about this?
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk_politics/6057812.stm

Comes from the same news source. I guess you just missed it, or glanced over it because it didn't give you an opportunity to bash America.

[Gizzmoe]

Originally Posted by Coda

or glanced over it because it didn't give you an opportunity to bash America.

Please stop the baiting, that´s the second time you try that today...

[Coda]

Originally Posted by Gizzmoe

Please stop the baiting, that´s the second time you try that today...

If I were to post 100 threads on how bad Germany's governemt, or any other countries governments suck, or make general hate statements towards any Euro country, I'd be censored and banned.

But if anyone slams the US, or Americans in general, it's deemed acceptable, and now, encouraged. This thread, along with many other like it, are baiting. baiting, and hating, Americans.

[Gizzmoe]

Originally Posted by Coda

This thread, along with many other like it, are baiting. baiting, and hating, Americans.

Relax. You won´t find many people here that hate Americans and Skybird is most certainly not one of them. He criticises certain aspects of the US government (and also his own and many others) and his intention is not to bait anyone.

[Skybird]

Originally Posted by Gizzmoe

Relax. You won´t find many people here that hate Americans and Skybird is most certainly not one of them. He criticises certain aspects of the US government (and also his own and many others) and his intention is not to bait anyone.

Thank you, Gizzmoe. I have given up to make that clear to people, since it always seems to be a lost case for me anyway.

[The Noob]

Originally Posted by Gizzmoe

Relax. You won´t find many people here that hate Americans and Skybird is most certainly not one of them. He criticises certain aspects of the US government (and also his own and many others) and his intention is not to bait anyone.

Just for the record on this hot debate, i do not hate Americans in Gerneral. There are only a few people i hate that are from amerca. I just disagree with thier political ideas, and that strongly. But there is no reason to hate anyone.

On other forums i also criticise my own governement, but here, nobody cares for this anyway. And since i am to retarded to Start good topics myself...

*Ducks away again*

[Skybird]

Originally Posted by Coda

Why aren't you upset about this?
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk_politics/6057812.stm

Comes from the same news source. I guess you just missed it, or glanced over it because it didn't give you an opportunity to bash America.

Narcosis beat me to it, so I just commented on it.

http://www.subsim.com/radioroom/showthread.php?t=99410

I have refered to that general in that and other threads repeatedly since then.

since that man seem to have his senses together, I see no reason to be upset about him - only about Blair trying to distort his comments as mirroring his own views. Blair must be the only man on the isles to believe that.

And since you maybe have not noticed it, that General has caused a lot of alarmed telephoning between Downing street and the White House. As reported in "the same news source" .