Are we sure it wasn't thermite?

Fish · 09-12-06, 04:40 PM

Alex Jones interviews Steven Jones, a BYU physics professor, who has scientifically proven that a special mix of thermite and sulfur and some other chemicals, known as thermate, was used to cut the WTC steel backbones. Thermate is widely used by the military and demolition companies as the cutting charges.

Yes:

http://video.google.com/videoplay?do...&q=steve+jones

No:

http://www.debunking911.com/thermite.htm

Dowly · 09-12-06, 04:49 PM

In Finland, there´s a show called 'Silminnäkijä' (=Eyewitness). It is a concentrates on all the 'big' things happening in the world. 9/11, the Tsunami and so on.

Anyway, the host of the show went to States to interview some of the conspiracy nuts. In one point they show a video of the tower just before it collapses and it seems something molten is pouring out of the building, and there´s a lot of that stuff coming. That would suggest that the steel melted, but the pro´s say that the fire wasnt hot enough to melt the steel. Not saying that it was STEEL that poured out, but it was definitly some metal or steel. I get you a still shot in a few minutes.

Edit: Oh I can see there´s already pics of the stuff pouring out.

Skybird · 09-12-06, 05:16 PM

http://www.prisonplanet.com/louie_cacchioli.html

http://www.thememoryhole.org/911/fir...e-excerpts.htm

The first is a firefighter telling a magazine in brief how he and his group went upstairs in the tower and then heared something that he and his group believed to be a bomb explosion.

The second is more interesting, a transcript of the radio communication of the fire-brigades. Note that on 78th floor the reported only two small pockets of fire. How that should be enough to melt steel structures remains mystery: "Battalion Seven ... Ladder 15, we've got two isolated pockets of fire. We should be able to knock it down with two lines. Radio that, 78th floor numerous 10-45 Code Ones."

Dowly · 09-12-06, 06:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Skybird

...numerous 10-45 Code Ones."

= fatalities

Skybird · 09-12-06, 06:21 PM

Supplementing Fish's video, that guy talking there I already referred to:

Quote:

Originally Posted by Skybird

http://www.subsim.com/radioroom/showthread.php?t=97846
post #12

http://worldtradecentertruth.com/volume/200609/WhyIndeedDidtheWorldTradeCenterBuildingsCompletely Collapse.pdf

That author got fired from his mormon university for violating the taboos around 9/11 too often. He also did not serve his reputation well when having puplished this essay about Jesus visiting America back then:

http://www.physics.byu.edu/faculty/j...%20figures.htm

The first report is giving the impression of a person that knows what he is talking of. The second clearly accieved the opposite effect for me.

joea · 09-12-06, 07:35 PM

Sorry Fish, Alex Joens has no credibility and is a shyster, from the second link you posted:

Quote:

n Steven Jones PDF "Answers to Objections and Questions", to support his claim for Sol-gels/Thermite he states:

"One molecule, described by the EPA's Erik Swartz, was present at levels "that dwarfed all others": 1,3-diphenylpropane. "We've never observed it in any sampling we've ever done,"

However when you look at the link he uses
http://www.newsday.com/news/health/ny-hsair0911,0,471193.story?coll=ny-homepage-right-area
You find out Mr. Jones edits out the VERY next line which states

"He said it was most likely produced by the plastic of tens of thousands of burning computers."

Apparently Jones felt this was not important enough for his readers to know.
Sloppy research or purposeful deception by the "scholars"? The evidence for one is growing...
Thanks to Shagster, ScottS and David B. Benson for their research.

Please.

09-12-06, 04:49 PM	#2
Dowly Lucky Jack Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Finland Posts: 25,053 Downloads: 32 Uploads: 0	In Finland, there´s a show called 'Silminnäkijä' (=Eyewitness). It is a concentrates on all the 'big' things happening in the world. 9/11, the Tsunami and so on. Anyway, the host of the show went to States to interview some of the conspiracy nuts. In one point they show a video of the tower just before it collapses and it seems something molten is pouring out of the building, and there´s a lot of that stuff coming. That would suggest that the steel melted, but the pro´s say that the fire wasnt hot enough to melt the steel. Not saying that it was STEEL that poured out, but it was definitly some metal or steel. I get you a still shot in a few minutes. Edit: Oh I can see there´s already pics of the stuff pouring out. Last edited by Dowly; 09-12-06 at 05:00 PM.

09-12-06, 05:16 PM	#3
Skybird Soaring Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: the mental asylum named Germany Posts: 42,647 Downloads: 10 Uploads: 0	http://www.prisonplanet.com/louie_cacchioli.html http://www.thememoryhole.org/911/fir...e-excerpts.htm The first is a firefighter telling a magazine in brief how he and his group went upstairs in the tower and then heared something that he and his group believed to be a bomb explosion. The second is more interesting, a transcript of the radio communication of the fire-brigades. Note that on 78th floor the reported only two small pockets of fire. How that should be enough to melt steel structures remains mystery: "Battalion Seven ... Ladder 15, we've got two isolated pockets of fire. We should be able to knock it down with two lines. Radio that, 78th floor numerous 10-45 Code Ones." __________________ If you feel nuts, consult an expert.

09-12-06, 04:40 PM	#1
Fish Eternal Patrol Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: Netherlands Posts: 1,923 Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	Are we sure it wasn't thermite? Alex Jones interviews Steven Jones, a BYU physics professor, who has scientifically proven that a special mix of thermite and sulfur and some other chemicals, known as thermate, was used to cut the WTC steel backbones. Thermate is widely used by the military and demolition companies as the cutting charges. Yes: http://video.google.com/videoplay?do...&q=steve+jones No: http://www.debunking911.com/thermite.htm Last edited by Fish; 09-12-06 at 04:54 PM.