China tells U.S. to shut up....

[Sea Demon]

Originally Posted by Skybird

Everyone can see the mess it has turned into, and that it is a completely lost case - if only he wants to see the truth. Clever ones even saw it in advance, three years ago, can one imagine it...

I leave it to that.

Yeah yeah. Sure. The truth is what Skybird defines it as. The real truth is that the book has not been completed yet. Sure there's differing opinions. Even among the Flag officers. But for every voice you show me that says it's alost cause, I can show you some that say there's gains being made. So since Skybird is not Nostradamus, he'll have to wait and see like the rest of us. But I know you're hoping for failure. Unfortunately that would not be in Germany's interests, whether you like it or not.

We have a saying in America..."Lead, follow, or get the hell out of the way!"

[Captain Nemo]

Originally Posted by Skybird

In past weeks I have linked to at least one long interview with troops in Iraq that disagree WITH YOU, as a matter of fact. and troops call the situation openly civil war, right now, right there. You do not like what it has turned into, thus you ignore it and call this "hope for a better future", and accusing me of hoping for the worst. Different to you, I simply see it without rosy glasses, and realistic. Everyone can see the mess it has turned into, and that it is a completely lost case - if only he wants to see the truth. Clever ones even saw it in advance, three years ago, can one imagine it...

I leave it to that.

I fully agree Skybird. The Iraq situation is a mess and if Bush and Blair had had a crystal ball and known in advance the outcome of their actions they would never have invaded Iraq. I still am of the opinion that it was a knee-jerk reaction to 9/11.

Nemo

[Skybird]

We have a saying, too: "Ein markiger Spruch ist immer was wert und erschreckt die Fliegen".

[Skybird]

Originally Posted by Captain Nemo

I fully agree Skybird. The Iraq situation is a mess and if Bush and Blair had had a crystal ball and known in advance the outcome of their actions they would never have invaded Iraq. I still am of the opinion that it was a knee-jerk reaction to 9/11.

Nemo

Afghanistan was. Iraq not. Iraq had been planned and wriotten down years before 9/11. 9/11 just became sort of a cover-up, for support for anything done in the name of 9/11 was granted in advance.

Now to the dentist, some major jawborne surgery for me. Remembering how bad it was the last two times, I have all reason to be a little bit nervous

[August]

Originally Posted by Kazuaki Shimazaki II

Better for everyone, probably.

I positively wince whenever I hear about the US whining about another nation's militarization. It is utterly hypocritical.

"Oh no, they are arming themselves so one day they might actually be able to defend against us or defy our will!"

You don't really believe that do you? Washington isn't the only ones worried about it.

[Fish]

Originally Posted by Skybird

Afghanistan was. Iraq not. Iraq had been planned and wriotten down years before 9/11. 9/11 just became sort of a cover-up, for support for anything done in the name of 9/11 was granted in advance.

Now to the dentist, some major jawborne surgery for me. Remembering how bad it was the last two times, I have all reason to be a little bit nervous

I cross my fingers.

[Kapitan]

Il say this one sentance and no more unless people want me to defend it.

its about bleeding time someone should tell the U.S.A to shut thier face

(note this is to the bush regieme not being prejudice against american citizens on the whole im not against the american people just bush for his pointless i know best we do it my way then it goes tits up, yes im one of these people fed up of following bush because he is "hard")

[August]

Originally Posted by Kapitan

Il say this one sentance and no more unless people want me to defend it.

its about bleeding time someone should tell the U.S.A to shut thier face

Hey why don't you go vandalize someones car.

[Kapitan]

Because im not a vandle thief or what ever i do that if some one pisses me off threatens me or does something against me otherwise im as sane as the next man isnt that right fred yup he sure is !

[Skybird]

Originally Posted by Fish

I cross my fingers.

Thanks. He used a different, special drug this time, and almost four times as much as normally, that way it finally did the job it was meant for, at the price of sedating almost all of my head. He said he could not give any more, else it would become dangerous For some reason the first two anesthetic attempts in the last twenty days did not succeed too well. We both wonder why. It seems my nerves in that part of the body are made of depth-tested submarine-steel, invulnerable to any drugs. That made the surgery seriously painful back then.

The downside of today's drug in excessive quantities: I feel lull and like drunk, and made of rubber. Awakening after a full anesthetization couldn't feel much different

[SkvyWvr]

Originally Posted by Sea Demon

Eventually we're going to say screw world opinion and just finish the job IMHO. The reason we aren't getting the job done fast enough is because we currently worry about world opinion. And that prevents us from putting forth the resources necessary to adequately do it.

It would also help if American Democrats would either get on board, or just shut up and let us get the job done. Thank God these people were not around when the U.S. was embroiled in WW2. They would have had us retreating after suffering the large amount of casualties at Midway, and the Coral Sea. I'm convinced that the Third Reich would have prevailed in the Atlantic if this type of thinking prevented the Allies from doing what was necessary to win.

Oh yeah, and get rid of the UN and their worthless resolutions.

I agree with you about the Dems and the UN. The Dems have, for the last 5 years done nothing but obstruct everything the administration has put forward without providing alternate solutions. As for the UN, they are corrupt and useless. Send them packing and use the building as office space to recoupe some of what was lost on 9-11.

[SkvyWvr]

Originally Posted by Kazuaki Shimazaki II

Better for everyone, probably.

I positively wince whenever I hear about the US whining about another nation's militarization. It is utterly hypocritical.

"Oh no, they are arming themselves so one day they might actually be able to defend against us or defy our will!"

The first step to an expansionist policy is a military build up

[Kapitan]

Originally Posted by August

Hey why don't you go vandalize someones car.

I have already done this meaningless task this morning (not directly), i was doing my route on the dustcarts (trash lorrys) when we tried to get round a tight corner, some woman had parked a 4x4 in the acctual drive way, we tried knocking her up by honking the horn several dozen times and even knocking on her door.

The viachle had no tax on it which means we can hit it and get away with it, so what do we do reverse the hopper into the rear and push it down the road a tad.

I dont think the woman in question will be very happy when she acctualy sees the back door and bumper, but it cant come back on us she had no tax therefore not insured and was on the road so not our fault.

[Takeda Shingen]

Originally Posted by Captain Nemo

I don't think you should underestimate the Chinese. They might not match the USA militarily but economically they are coming up fast. It wouldn't surprise me if within the next 5-10 years they become a member of the top industrialised nations making the G8 the G9.

China should already be in the G8. Politics alone placed Russia in it's slot.

With regard to pollution, I think the USA does badly on this front by contributing 33% of the worlds CO2 emissions and the US Federal government seems to be dragging it's feet on combating the problem.

Yep. Same old, same old from Washington. It doesn't seem to matter who is in charge either.

[Takeda Shingen]

Originally Posted by SkvyWvr

I agree with you about the Dems and the UN. The Dems have, for the last 5 years done nothing but obstruct everything the administration has put forward without providing alternate solutions. As for the UN, they are corrupt and useless. Send them packing and use the building as office space to recoupe some of what was lost on 9-11.

The Democrats? Lest we forget, the Republican Party has had control of the Legislature for nearly six years now, four of which were by an overwhelming majority. It is the Republican split over the Bush Administration's policies that forces the inactivity of Capitol Hill.

Thus, the administration has problems with the opposing party. The administration has problems with it's own party. The administration has a problem with 60% of the American people. You know what they say: If you have a problem with everyone, then the problem is certainly not with everyone. And frankly, before we all run to the banner of the Right, I don't know what Bush's politics are, but they are in no way conservative.