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Old 07-27-06, 09:50 AM   #16
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What me and the wife were wondering was what the heck are our.."Americas"...politicians thinking when then pledged like 35 million in humanitarian aid to Lebanon when it is our ally doing the attacking, and not pledge that kinda aid the the 2800 familes of Iraq/Afgan soldiers who lost there lives and the 8000 who are serverely wounded and 18000 overall?WTF are they thinking....isn't it the Arab countries themselves who are swimming in american money from oil...I'm soory but let them send aid to Lebanon if anything send the 35 million to Isreal....

I know it is to try to show "Face" in that America really does care about the little guy but at this point in time I think this is really folly on the part of American politicians...do we even care what anyone thinks after we took our stand in Afghan and Iraq?

I did not even read the article Skybird but I think you know how a majority of American Christians think....they will side with Israel without question.As do I for years I have seen the actions of them and they're neighbors and it is the actions what matter....

Israel did'nt go into Leb and snatch anyone and if that deed is what broke the camels back to them then so be it...they took a stand and I respect it...and I know LOTS of people here do to.
The 35 mil is shut up money so that Isreal can keep doing what it needs to do.
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Old 07-28-06, 12:40 AM   #17
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Doh! Subman lol...

...To the aircraft carrier comment Skybird I can see where that comes from, but again America as I see it ...from the perspective of an American living here... is as always...50/50...50 percent are faithful and don't sweat the small stuff and realize things take time and sacrifice and faith ,hope and prayer....50 percent are like weeds blowing in the wind....they are all for the wars and fights when the wind is blowing just right...

Israel will always be under the wing of America probably for 2 main reasons....one from the Biblical standpoint and the other from the stationary aircraft carrier standpoint.

Dats 2 very very strong reasons.
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Old 07-28-06, 12:47 AM   #18
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Ah, don'T take it word by word, it is a metaphor only! but it is not rarely used over here. Must have red it repeatedly in newspapers, books, and heared it on TV as well over the years.
That's too bad because the term implies an operational use of Israeli military facilities that we don't have.
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Old 07-28-06, 05:32 AM   #19
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The IDF is an ally and a strategical asset for global, geostrategical policy making in the region. Intel cooperation is high. American political influence on military operations of the Israelis is significant. Don't split hairs here, it really is not needed - nothing bad happened, no flaming took place, everything is calm and the ocean is as smooth as a mirror!
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