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Old 07-17-06, 05:30 PM   #16
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Its definatly a edited photo, big reason? there isnt the slightest trace of wind on the person, what hair he has is in place, his pantlegs arnt forced back nor is any other part of his clothing showing the slightest effect of wind. You try managing that in 100+ knots of airspeed it takes to keep a plane like that from stalling

Not to mention the picture as a whole just doesnt look right, it looks like a super imposed image.
I think you are wrong - he has no hair! And his pantleg is clearly trailing behind him.

By the way, he is in a Piper - he isn't moving too fast because that plane is rather slow!

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Old 07-17-06, 05:39 PM   #17
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I really think this is a genuine image.Somebody a long time ago set an airborne endurance record.The main problem the pilot faced was oil consumption which I think the photo shows is being dealt with!
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Old 07-17-06, 06:25 PM   #18
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Pipers still have a stall speed of around 80 knots at least.

And he does have hair just a bald patch on the top. And zooming in up close i dont see any signs of wind on his clothes at all (his clothes facing into the wind would be pressed tight against him).

Plus the shadows dont seem line up right from the ground.

Also there is a slight fuzzed ring around the plane. Though this could be caused by shrinking the photo.


Of course i cant say conclusivly either way as the photo is too small
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Old 07-17-06, 06:39 PM   #19
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Pipers still have a stall speed of around 80 knots at least.
Well, you're way off the mark there. The Cub's MAX speed was only around 80 knots:
J-3C-65 - Max speed 148km/h (80kt), typical cruising speed 132km/h (71kt). Initial rate of climb 450ft/min. Service ceiling 12,000ft. Range 402km (217nm).
http://www.airliners.net/info/stats.main?id=298

The nice thing about a Cub landing is that it happens at a near-walk. Actual touch down is around 35 mph, so even if your technique is sloppy, everything is happening so slowly you have all day to set it straight. If you don't have much tailwheel time, try not to think about it. Get the airplane on more or less straight and it will roll more or less straight. Start fighting the rudders simply because it's a taildragger and you think you should be doing something, and it will do a slow motion dance. Best advice in landing a Cub is to make sure it is straight and not drifting and leave it alone after touch down. There's a reason for the saying "...lands easy as a Cub..."
Here's the whole article:
http://www.airbum.com/pireps/ClassicCompCub.html

I've seen 'clown' stunt pilots at air shows climb out of the cockpit and back in; the plane is incredibly stable. I'm certain the shot was staged; the source even says it was being flown from the back seat. That said, I'm equally certain there was no computer juggling; it also says the photo was taken in 1946. That should be verifiable.
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Ok im wrong about the stall speed (what can i say im use to fighters)

Still though there would be some sign of wind on the person. Check out some of the vintage barnstormer movies featuring wingwalkers. Those biplanes could fly even slower, and the wingwalkers still showed clear signs of wind on them and their clothes.

Also altering flim has been around almost since the invention of the photograph.

But perhaps it is real, if it is then yes it would definatly be staged. But it is still a odd looking photo.
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Old 07-17-06, 08:00 PM   #21
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Ok im wrong about the stall speed (what can i say im use to fighters)

Still though there would be some sign of wind on the person. Check out some of the vintage barnstormer movies featuring wingwalkers. Those biplanes could fly even slower, and the wingwalkers still showed clear signs of wind on them and their clothes.

Also altering flim has been around almost since the invention of the photograph.

But perhaps it is real, if it is then yes it would definatly be staged. But it is still a odd looking photo.
There is evidence of wind - look at his 70's style pant leg, and then look closely at where his foot is. His pant leg is not behaving in a normal manner!

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