England v Portugal - Page 2

STEED · 07-01-06, 12:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Oombongo

put some cocaine in Rooney's bag, and send him to SArabia for sunny vacations

:rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl:

Give him six of the best first.

Oberon · 07-01-06, 12:58 PM

Well, somehow I don't think so many of Britains youth will be idolising him now, probably looking to kill him

STEED · 07-01-06, 01:03 PM

Yes, he is a bad boy indeed.

Torplexed · 07-01-06, 01:13 PM

My deepfelt condolences.....

(dodges thrown bottle)

...to England.

horsa · 07-01-06, 01:37 PM

Don’t kid yourselves you can make Rooney a scapegoat …….

Even when he was on the pitch England didn’t look as if they’d score

And if you can score only one penalty in four why should you expect to make progress in a tight tournament where penalty shootouts are the norm

Skybird · 07-01-06, 01:47 PM

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Originally Posted by STEED

Skybird, time to get in your Tank and defend Germany.

No, but I got into your tank before the match...

So far I am winning the quarterfinal -poll. I voted Germany, Italy and Portugal, and they all are through. I voted France, and I bet a 55:45 chance for that Brazil cannot pass beyond them. Bad way for England to loose the game, I did not see it all, but listened to it on BFBS or BBC radio. The reported made it sound like a dramatic match. And England should really avoid penalty shootouts, or haven't they learned by now that that is not made for them?

STEED · 07-01-06, 01:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Skybird

England should really avoid penalty shootouts, or haven't they learned by now that that is not made for them?

I agree with that one.

CB.. · 07-01-06, 03:24 PM

they didn't play well because they did not consider it important enough to play well--they went to sleep--as usual
they played like football was their hobby not their profession..

Godalmighty83 · 07-01-06, 04:08 PM

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Originally Posted by CB..

they didn't play well because they did not consider it important enough to play well--they went to sleep--as usual
they played like football was their hobby not their profession..

you have no idea how much i disagree with you on that.

Oberon · 07-01-06, 04:50 PM

Yeah, I mean making Rooney a scapegoat for the entire match is perhaps a little bit too steep, but he certainly didn't help matters by losing his cool like that, yes I know it was a stressful situation and very frustrating but he gets paid enough not to loose his temper and stomping on that guys groin was uncalled for, especially when you consider that they were already a man down after Beckham fell.
But kudos to the England side, they played well considering they only had ten men, however, in the end, it all came down to penalties which, sadly, we totally suck at.

07-01-06, 08:23 PM

God...I don't know....the whole England squad must be stupid. Ronaldo said to his team mates to incite Rooney into doing something stupid. He knows him well and knows Rooney is a hot-head. Though someone should've told him..."look, Rooney mate, they are out to get you". The Argentines did the same to Beckham. *yawn*. My God, these guys are thick or what...

Second stupid England team mistake: Burn your young players out...Michael Owen...compared to Maradona at the age of 18, warming the Real Madrid bench at 26.

Beckham: Should be at the peak of his career...instead he's the ghost of his former self. Rooney: Will have the same fate as Beckham/Owen....and shows his inexperience by being easily taunted.

Who's next? Oh yeah...Walcot...

Have England ever heard of the Under 21?

....carry on though. You know...40 years since they won a World Cup (and that was a fluke) at home....so yeah...they must be doing everything right.

Winston · 07-01-06, 10:09 PM

Wow, no ones said anything about Sven yet. You ask me I recon his 4-5-1 formation did not help much. So many times the ball was booted up to Rooney when he was isolated and possession was given away, this happened the last game as well. With two strikers things would have been more open up there and something might have happened. Look at when Rooney was sent off, England picked up there game and there passing got a little better. If only they played like that from the start with two strikers there would have been a lot more pressure on the Portugal goalie. As it stands he could have sat down and had a cup of tea and England still would not have hit the back of the net. All I can say is thank god this is that last game Sven is in charge. Lets hope things pick up for them.

On Rooney, I think he got quite frustrated out there. Stepping on that lads balls was accidental. I think he got a bit pissed when the Portugal players ran up to the referee pressuring him to give Rooney a card, that’s something English players don’t do. Still it was Rooney’s fault for letting them get to him, but he’s still quite young so give him a brake. Next world cup he’ll be scoring some goals and every body will love him. Anyway, hard luck England. As A Welsh man I was rooting for you to do well this year. I find it sad that despite having a team with some very good players in it they just never look comfortable this time round.

Ramius · 07-02-06, 02:34 AM

Im not sure if the ref has actually come out and said this yet, but i dont think he got sent off for stamping.
If you watch the replay, the ref is pointing everyone away after it happened - no sign of a red card getting pulled out. Then as soon as Rooney pulls back Ronaldos shirt = instant red.

First day back at Man Utds training ground might turn out a bit nasty :hmm::hmm::hmm:

And as for that dumb swede

Whats the point of taking 4 strikers, but only having cinfidence in 2 of them, and 1 of them gets broken. So you now left to play a stupid 4-5-1 with a striker who has just came back from injury and a system that none of the squad seem to like playing.

XabbaRus · 07-02-06, 05:16 AM

Yea I didn't think the stamping on the bollocks was deliberate. I agree with Ramius here.

Looking at the replay the way the guy had his legs round Rooney's as he was trying to get the ball kind of made it a distinct possibility.

Did anyone notice after that red card that every time there was even the slightest contact between a Portugal and England player the Portugal player would either go down or put his hand up calling for the ref.

I think England played better with 10 men than 11 and better than any game before this. Granted Rooney is an idiot and England need to sort themselves out. Hopefully the new boss will pull things up. Sven GoneErikson at last.

horsa · 07-02-06, 05:44 AM

Hmmm ... this stamping incident is going to take some unravelling :hmm:

My first rection to watching the the replays several times over, is the same as Ramius and Xabbarus It looked like an untidy and overeffusive scrap for the ball, and Rooney's boot just found itself in the players groin.

Having said that, I watched it yet again this morning, and for the first time I felt I could detect a hint of intention from Rooney. I think what we may have here is half conscious intent. It looks like it may have been a petulant reflex with the boot that unfortunately happened to be in the sort of place normally associated with somebody who knew eactly what he was doing.

As to Sven ..... Well, I think he's going to fill many pages of analysis and controversy for years to come yet.

07-01-06, 01:03 PM	#18
STEED Lucky Jack Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Down Town UK Posts: 27,695 Downloads: 89 Uploads: 48	Yes, he is a bad boy indeed. __________________ Dr Who rest in peace 1963-2017. To borrow Davros saying...I NAME YOU CHIBNALL THE DESTROYER OF DR WHO YOU KILLED IT!

07-01-06, 01:13 PM	#19
Torplexed Let's Sink Sumptin' ! Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Seattle, WA Posts: 5,823 Downloads: 43 Uploads: 0	My deepfelt condolences..... (dodges thrown bottle) ...to England. __________________ --Mobilis in Mobili--

07-01-06, 01:37 PM	#20
horsa Pacific Aces Dev Team Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Halifax, England Posts: 502 Downloads: 44 Uploads: 3	Don’t kid yourselves you can make Rooney a scapegoat ……. Even when he was on the pitch England didn’t look as if they’d score And if you can score only one penalty in four why should you expect to make progress in a tight tournament where penalty shootouts are the norm Last edited by horsa; 07-01-06 at 04:42 PM.

07-01-06, 03:24 PM	#23
CB.. Ace of the Deep Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: UK Posts: 1,278 Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	they didn't play well because they did not consider it important enough to play well--they went to sleep--as usual they played like football was their hobby not their profession.. __________________ the world's tinyiest sh3 supermod- and other SH3/SH2 stuff http://www.ebort2.co.uk/ The best lack all conviction, while the worst Are full of passionate intensity. W.B.Yeats

07-01-06, 10:09 PM	#27
Winston Wild Night in Bangkok Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: Wales Posts: 179 Downloads: 5 Uploads: 0	Wow, no ones said anything about Sven yet. You ask me I recon his 4-5-1 formation did not help much. So many times the ball was booted up to Rooney when he was isolated and possession was given away, this happened the last game as well. With two strikers things would have been more open up there and something might have happened. Look at when Rooney was sent off, England picked up there game and there passing got a little better. If only they played like that from the start with two strikers there would have been a lot more pressure on the Portugal goalie. As it stands he could have sat down and had a cup of tea and England still would not have hit the back of the net. All I can say is thank god this is that last game Sven is in charge. Lets hope things pick up for them. On Rooney, I think he got quite frustrated out there. Stepping on that lads balls was accidental. I think he got a bit pissed when the Portugal players ran up to the referee pressuring him to give Rooney a card, that’s something English players don’t do. Still it was Rooney’s fault for letting them get to him, but he’s still quite young so give him a brake. Next world cup he’ll be scoring some goals and every body will love him. Anyway, hard luck England. As A Welsh man I was rooting for you to do well this year. I find it sad that despite having a team with some very good players in it they just never look comfortable this time round. __________________ "Don't talk to me about naval tradition. It's nothing but rum, sodomy and the lash" Last edited by Winston; 07-01-06 at 10:11 PM.

07-01-06, 12:58 PM	#17
Oberon Lucky Jack Join Date: Jul 2002 Posts: 25,976 Downloads: 61 Uploads: 20	Well, somehow I don't think so many of Britains youth will be idolising him now, probably looking to kill him

07-01-06, 04:50 PM	#25
Oberon Lucky Jack Join Date: Jul 2002 Posts: 25,976 Downloads: 61 Uploads: 20	Yeah, I mean making Rooney a scapegoat for the entire match is perhaps a little bit too steep, but he certainly didn't help matters by losing his cool like that, yes I know it was a stressful situation and very frustrating but he gets paid enough not to loose his temper and stomping on that guys groin was uncalled for, especially when you consider that they were already a man down after Beckham fell. But kudos to the England side, they played well considering they only had ten men, however, in the end, it all came down to penalties which, sadly, we totally suck at.

07-01-06, 08:23 PM	#26
Kurushio Stowaway Posts: n/a Downloads: Uploads:	God...I don't know....the whole England squad must be stupid. Ronaldo said to his team mates to incite Rooney into doing something stupid. He knows him well and knows Rooney is a hot-head. Though someone should've told him..."look, Rooney mate, they are out to get you". The Argentines did the same to Beckham. yawn. My God, these guys are thick or what... Second stupid England team mistake: Burn your young players out...Michael Owen...compared to Maradona at the age of 18, warming the Real Madrid bench at 26. Beckham: Should be at the peak of his career...instead he's the ghost of his former self. Rooney: Will have the same fate as Beckham/Owen....and shows his inexperience by being easily taunted. Who's next? Oh yeah...Walcot... Have England ever heard of the Under 21? ....carry on though. You know...40 years since they won a World Cup (and that was a fluke) at home....so yeah...they must be doing everything right.

07-02-06, 02:34 AM	#28
Ramius Commander Join Date: May 2001 Location: At sea (again) Posts: 457 Downloads: 43 Uploads: 0	Im not sure if the ref has actually come out and said this yet, but i dont think he got sent off for stamping. If you watch the replay, the ref is pointing everyone away after it happened - no sign of a red card getting pulled out. Then as soon as Rooney pulls back Ronaldos shirt = instant red. First day back at Man Utds training ground might turn out a bit nasty :hmm::hmm::hmm: And as for that dumb swede Whats the point of taking 4 strikers, but only having cinfidence in 2 of them, and 1 of them gets broken. So you now left to play a stupid 4-5-1 with a striker who has just came back from injury and a system that none of the squad seem to like playing. __________________ There is a forgotten, nay even forbidden word, which means more to me than any other. That word is England

07-02-06, 05:16 AM	#29
XabbaRus Navy Seal Join Date: Sep 2001 Posts: 5,330 Downloads: 5 Uploads: 0	Yea I didn't think the stamping on the bollocks was deliberate. I agree with Ramius here. Looking at the replay the way the guy had his legs round Rooney's as he was trying to get the ball kind of made it a distinct possibility. Did anyone notice after that red card that every time there was even the slightest contact between a Portugal and England player the Portugal player would either go down or put his hand up calling for the ref. I think England played better with 10 men than 11 and better than any game before this. Granted Rooney is an idiot and England need to sort themselves out. Hopefully the new boss will pull things up. Sven GoneErikson at last. __________________

07-02-06, 05:44 AM	#30
horsa Pacific Aces Dev Team Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Halifax, England Posts: 502 Downloads: 44 Uploads: 3	Hmmm ... this stamping incident is going to take some unravelling :hmm: My first rection to watching the the replays several times over, is the same as Ramius and Xabbarus It looked like an untidy and overeffusive scrap for the ball, and Rooney's boot just found itself in the players groin. Having said that, I watched it yet again this morning, and for the first time I felt I could detect a hint of intention from Rooney. I think what we may have here is half conscious intent. It looks like it may have been a petulant reflex with the boot that unfortunately happened to be in the sort of place normally associated with somebody who knew eactly what he was doing. As to Sven ..... Well, I think he's going to fill many pages of analysis and controversy for years to come yet. Last edited by horsa; 07-02-06 at 06:09 PM.