Now they go and tee off the Russians

August · 06-03-06, 11:02 AM

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/middle_east/5043990.stm

TLAM Strike · 06-03-06, 11:07 AM

Oh yes anger the people who gas terrorists (and their hostages) and bomb the cities they hide in off the map with FAEs.

scandium · 06-03-06, 12:12 PM

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Originally Posted by TLAM Strike

Oh yes anger the people who gas terrorists (and their hostages) and bomb the cities they hide in off the map with FAEs.

I doubt gassing/bombing Iraq right now would go over well with the Americans.

Konovalov · 06-03-06, 12:29 PM

The problem is August, who are they? Are they a gang of criminals seeking financial gain via a ransom? Could it be Abu Musab al-Zarqawi's Al Qaeda in Iraq terrorist organisation? Is it a Shia militia group? Or could it be Saddam Bathist loyalists? That is one of the problems with this insurgency in that it's composition and form is so vast and differing. All this event highlights to me is the continued poor security situation in various and crucial parts of Iraq such as Baghdad.

STEED · 06-03-06, 02:14 PM

It will be interesting to see how Russia will handle this one?

XabbaRus · 06-03-06, 03:54 PM

It's not as if only US and UK diplomats and workers are at risk. If you read further down you'll see that an Emirate's diplomat were kidnapped and not released for 2 weeks as well as Algerian, one Egyptian and two Moroccan embassy workers abducted and killed.

I think in the context the title of the thread is misleading. I think you have an insurgency that targets US and UK troops and then common and garden criminal gangs who know how to extort money by kidnapping anyone they think can get them the dosh.

Skybird · 06-04-06, 06:53 AM

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Originally Posted by Konovalov

The problem is August, who are they? Are they a gang of criminals seeking financial gain via a ransom? Could it be Abu Musab al-Zarqawi's Al Qaeda in Iraq terrorist organisation? Is it a Shia militia group? Or could it be Saddam Bathist loyalists? That is one of the problems with this insurgency in that it's composition and form is so vast and differing. All this event highlights to me is the continued poor security situation in various and crucial parts of Iraq such as Baghdad.

You are right, it is all that, and maybe the faction of organized crime even is the biggest. but it is changing, and more and more the future rulers step onto the scene, helped by Iran emerging more and more as the real power in Iraq. I expect the diversity of fighting factions to reduce over time, and somewhat "unifying" under the banner of a religious cause, as hinted in this story:

http://www.timesonline.co.uk/article...209866,00.html

This does not mean that Shias and Sunnis will not try to massacre each other.

Yahoshua · 06-04-06, 12:56 PM

These attackers either made a mistake in attacking the wrong Convoy. Or they're NOT as intelligent as I thought they were in purposely doing so.

Anybody here remember the bezetlan (sp?) school hostage crises? Remember how badly the Spetznaz screwed that one up? Or the theatre incident? Imagine if they came to "visit" Baghdad for a day.

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Konovalov Ocean Warrior Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: High Wycombe, Bucks, UK Posts: 2,811 Downloads: 9 Uploads: 0	The problem is August, who are they? Are they a gang of criminals seeking financial gain via a ransom? Could it be Abu Musab al-Zarqawi's Al Qaeda in Iraq terrorist organisation? Is it a Shia militia group? Or could it be Saddam Bathist loyalists? That is one of the problems with this insurgency in that it's composition and form is so vast and differing. All this event highlights to me is the continued poor security situation in various and crucial parts of Iraq such as Baghdad. __________________ "In a Christian context, sexuality is traditionally seen as a consequence of the Fall, but for Muslims, it is an anticipation of paradise. So I can say, I think, that I was validly converted to Islam by a teenage French Jewish nudist." Sheikh Abdul-Hakim Murad (Timothy Winter)

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STEED Lucky Jack Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Down Town UK Posts: 27,695 Downloads: 89 Uploads: 48	It will be interesting to see how Russia will handle this one? __________________ Dr Who rest in peace 1963-2017. To borrow Davros saying...I NAME YOU CHIBNALL THE DESTROYER OF DR WHO YOU KILLED IT!

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XabbaRus Navy Seal Join Date: Sep 2001 Posts: 5,330 Downloads: 5 Uploads: 0	It's not as if only US and UK diplomats and workers are at risk. If you read further down you'll see that an Emirate's diplomat were kidnapped and not released for 2 weeks as well as Algerian, one Egyptian and two Moroccan embassy workers abducted and killed. I think in the context the title of the thread is misleading. I think you have an insurgency that targets US and UK troops and then common and garden criminal gangs who know how to extort money by kidnapping anyone they think can get them the dosh. __________________

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Yahoshua The Old Man Join Date: May 2006 Posts: 1,493 Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	These attackers either made a mistake in attacking the wrong Convoy. Or they're NOT as intelligent as I thought they were in purposely doing so. Anybody here remember the bezetlan (sp?) school hostage crises? Remember how badly the Spetznaz screwed that one up? Or the theatre incident? Imagine if they came to "visit" Baghdad for a day.