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Old 05-09-06, 09:03 AM   #16
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Originally Posted by Abraham
@ everybody who takes a relaxed view at the complete political picture of Iran's current policy:
Think about Nazi Germany in the early thirties.
Who cares that the Nazi's start building a few coastal U-boats and a pocket battleship; they'll never be able to threaten the most powerfull fleet that ever sailed the globe, the Royal Navy...
And those little PzKw I's and II's with their machine guns are oh so inferior to Mathildes and Valentine tanks.
No need to worry at all...
Thought about it and I don't see any basis for comparison at all. Let's look at it from another angle: did Iran enter the spotlight before or after the US launched the war of rhetoric on Iran by including them, in 2002, as part of the "Axis of Evil" that also included North Korea and Iraq? Did the US subsequently, for the supposed purpose of disarmament, invade and occupy an already disarmed Iraq which was part of this "Axis of Evil"? At the time the Axis of Evil speech was given, what countries had Iran invaded and occupied? In light of the US's actions toward another Axis of 3 nation that you were a part of, would it make more sense for them to follow the same path Iraq had, one that led ultimately to its invasion and occupation, or would it make more sense to do everything within your means to protect yourself from sharing the same fate? Perhaps it might even make sense to follow the example of the other country in this Axis, you know, the one that wasn't attacked and invaded? Which of the following has Iran done that the US has not already itself done:

a: come to power through a disputed election that was followed up shortly thereafter by a Reichstag Fire/911, an enabling/PATRIOT Act, and a "crusade" against your enemies for which the blueprint for your 3rd reich had already been published before hand in Mein Kampf/Project for a New American Century;

b: enriched uranium;

c: roused the masses by stirring up nationalistic sentiment and proclaiming that anyone who is not with you is against you;

d: outspending any other country in the world in weapons;

e: caught torturing POWs in your most infamous prison while at the same time continuing a practice of holding those you deem to be an enemy in an offshore prison with no charge, with no trial, and for an indefinite period while having others rendered to friendly dictatorships where they can be tortured on your behalf;

f: attacked and invaded two countries, one of which had not attacked you, had no capability to attack you, and was in fact a 3rd world state with 1/10th your population, 50% of which were children, and which had already been defanged through over a decade of midieval style sanctions combined with periodic bombing but which you insisted was in fact enough of a threat to be invaded, pre-emptively, even while international weapons inspectors were searching the place for this supposed threat. The threat that, years later, has still never been found;

g: repudiating the non-proliferation treaty for the purposes of augmenting the world's largest arsenal of WMD with tactical nukes to be pre-emptively used on your declared Nazi like enemy who is currently at war with nobody and who has no nuclear capability of their own. Weapons that are regarded so heinous that in the 60 years since you invented and used them on cities no country, including your own, has ever used again.

You're right Abraham. Until now I'd never before noticed the similarity between Iran and Nazi Germany.
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Old 05-09-06, 09:26 AM   #17
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What I am actually interested in here with the Nazi Germany v Iran comparisons is a comparison of the powers held by the Iranian President v those held by Hitler who after mid 1933 was dictator of the then Nazi Germany? Has anyone bothered to do an analysis of this? :hmm:
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Old 05-11-06, 01:29 PM   #18
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All your defsesive points about Iran are Mute....A World leader lays down the guantlet and says it will wipe a country off the map....can you black black take that back?...what to do? ...the choice is obvious to the trained eye yet it will faulter until destruction comes again like a whirlwind....unless someone like Israel will not take the gamble, same as the US did....My only hope is we, "America", stand with Israel and not against.

Even more so is the truth of Matthew... except the days be shortned no flesh should be saved.

Vanity of vanity ALL is vanity.
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