Carriers

[Cerberus]

Originally Posted by perisher

I found one at anchor in Scapa Flow.

I trust you persuaded it to spend more time with its anchor?

[El Dude]

Originally Posted by bigboywooly

wow not seen any of those for a year ? came across a Fiji light cruiser in a convoy last night - 1 torp at 7.3m mag and boom

have also come across a nelson with 2 cruiser and 6 or 7 destroyers too but alas no chance of letting loose at that lot steaming along at 25 kts

Thats what makes a good patrol bumping into some of the big stuff other than the usual corvette frigate or destroyer - you may not always get to have a shot but is nice to see them steaming along

Mmm that sounds cool, what mods are you using?

[Lzs von swe]

Originally Posted by CptGrayWolf

I'm curious to know who spotted a carrier in the stock game, and what was it's escort coverage like.

I ran into a taskforce in cg87 on 17 dec -41 at ca 01.00. I did not have time to get closer then about 3000m so I´m not sure, but as I remember there was 6 destroyers, 1 fleetcarrier and 1 Nelson class battleship. The Nelson sank at 01.51 after two torpedohits.

I've seen a few cruisers in convoys, and one task force while off Ireland on my way to the Atlantic. I managed to put two or three into the carrier, and it showed up as sunk on the map, partially due to the heavy weather. I didn't get credit for it though.

Maybe it was neutral. :rotfl:

[bigboywooly]

Originally Posted by El Dude

Mmm that sounds cool, what mods are you using?

Am using grey wolves v1 and 1.1 but all shipping is stock as playing in the wolfpack campaign so am using their .scr too

[bookworm_020]

Did anyone know that the Italians had an aircraft carrier? They converted the passinger ship Roma, but it wasn't finnished before Italy was knocked out of the war.

[perisher]

Even if Germany or Italy had completed their carriers, they lacked suitable aircraft to operate from them. The JU87 Stuka might have converted ok, but they lacked a fighter that would have stood up to carrier operations. The BF109's landing gear was too narrow to provide stability on a moving deck.

[AG124]

Originally Posted by bookworm_020

Did anyone know that the Italians had an aircraft carrier? They converted the passinger ship Roma, but it wasn't finnished before Italy was knocked out of the war.

Yes, she was to be renamed Aquila, and was scuttled incomplete to avoid capture. Post-war, the wreck was salvaged but was too badly damaged to be worth completing and thus was scrapped.

Also, many people do not know that the Italians converted a second liner into the carrier Sparviero. She would have been similar to the HMS Argus in appearance. She was never completed and suffered the same fate as the Aquila.

http://warships.web4u.cz/tridy.php?l...tat=ITA&typ=CV

[El Dude]

Originally Posted by bigboywooly

Am using grey wolves v1 and 1.1 but all shipping is stock as playing in the wolfpack campaign so am using their .scr too

Ok thanks, stock shipping here too i guess i am just unlucky not meeting them then.

[bookworm_020]

That did convert the Bf 109's for carrier ops. The T version was built in two mods, T-O with catapult and arrestor gear and T1 with gear removed - it was used for training. They weren't used on carriers (of couse!) but were used in Norway as interceptors.

The Italians were planning a similar thing with one of there fighters (Ra 202?, I know the 202 is correct but not sure on the correct letter abrevation) but never went ahead with it.

[perisher]

Yeah, but would they have stood up to carrier ops?

Look at the Seafire, in the air it was all but unbeatable but it was plagued with deck accidents which were mostly due to its weak and narrow undercarriage (which had been beefed up from the original Spitfire's). Several sources quote 20 lost in deck accidents for every single aircraft lost to enemy action. For sustained carrier ops an aircraft had to trade off a little perfomance in return for strong, and wide, landing gear, like the Hellcat.

Off hand, I cannot think of any aircraft that was originally designed for land use becoming a totally successful carrier aircraft, can you?

[VonHelsching]

In order to "raise" the possibilities of locating carriers, BBs, cruisers etc., I would suggest that you install SH3 Gen. Check the thread in the mods section.

I couldn't imagine the game without it.

[El Dude]

Originally Posted by VonHelsching

In order to "raise" the possibilities of locating carriers, BBs, cruisers etc., I would suggest that you install SH3 Gen. Check the thread in the mods section.

I couldn't imagine the game without it.

Thanks for the tip VonHelsching, will give that one a try.

[bigboywooly]

Took the tip of installing sh3gen and ran of first map update-my patrol grid was nowhere near scapa flow but it said the ark royal and 2 armed merchant cruisers ? possibly so i though oh what the heck and negotiated my way into scapa only to find 1 fiji well i sunk that and as would happen comp froze so rebooted and ran sh3gen again from same save point - again gave me same ships in scapa plus the fiji - lol - think i will stick to my patrol grid this time but will carry on some more with it and see how i get on in future

[Captain Affenschwanz]

Originally Posted by CptGrayWolf

I'm curious to know who spotted a carrier in the stock game, and what was it's escort coverage like.

January, 1944: I left Bordeaux and had just cleared the Bay of Biscay when I came across a Bogue Class carrier with an escort of 8 various types of destroyers. I sank it with 4 fish fired from 2.5 meters. What a rush!

It was the first large warship I've encountered in 24 patrols. What really amazed me was that I was able to get away unmolested.