Pentagon: Russia gave Saddam U.S. intel - Page 2

Type941 · 03-25-06, 04:40 PM

i think we forget the reason states JOIN together is because it's hard for them to live on their own in the first place. But ok, if they are some oil rich Texas, who knows, but I think it's very far fetched. Anyway, use will chop off some parts of canada if it loses some territory to its mexian friends.

scandium · 03-25-06, 05:38 PM

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Anyway, use will chop off some parts of canada if it loses some territory to its mexian friends.

Been tried

Though in all seriousness, despite the antagonism both sides occasionally display toward each other (usually through proxies), our two countries are so closely intertwined that the US attacking Canada would be about as productive as the US attacking California. We do 5 billion dollars a day in trade. Not to mention mutually beneficial relationships through our membership in both NORAD and NATO. It would basically make about as much sense as Britain attacking France in 1939. No, it'd make even less sense.

TLAM Strike · 03-25-06, 06:18 PM

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...but I'd imagine there must be some provision in the US constitution to allow a state to leave the union peacefully. Of course constitutions can be amended.

Nope thats what caused everything to go to S*hit last time! See Suprime Court Case Texas v. White:

"The union between Texas and the other States was as complete, as perpetual, and as indissoluble as the union between the original States. There was no place for reconsideration, or revocation, except through revolution, or through consent of the States."

"Considered therefore as transactions under the Constitution, the ordinance of secession, adopted by the convention and ratified by a majority of the citizens of Texas, and all the acts of her legislature intended to give effect to that ordinance, were absolutely null. They were utterly without operation in law. The obligations of the State, as a member of the Union, and of every citizen of the State, as a citizen of the United States, remained perfect and unimpaired. It certainly follows that the State did not cease to be a State, nor her citizens to be citizens of the Union."

scandium · 03-25-06, 06:58 PM

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...but I'd imagine there must be some provision in the US constitution to allow a state to leave the union peacefully. Of course constitutions can be amended.

Nope thats what caused everything to go to S*hit last time! See Suprime Court Case Texas v. White:

"The union between Texas and the other States was as complete, as perpetual, and as indissoluble as the union between the original States. There was no place for reconsideration, or revocation, except through revolution, or through consent of the States."

"Considered therefore as transactions under the Constitution, the ordinance of secession, adopted by the convention and ratified by a majority of the citizens of Texas, and all the acts of her legislature intended to give effect to that ordinance, were absolutely null. They were utterly without operation in law. The obligations of the State, as a member of the Union, and of every citizen of the State, as a citizen of the United States, remained perfect and unimpaired. It certainly follows that the State did not cease to be a State, nor her citizens to be citizens of the Union."

I wish our own federalist situation in Canada were so clear cut.

Iceman · 03-25-06, 09:33 PM

The topic goes from Russia giving intell to Iraq to the collapse of the US...you guys are like watching the sci-fi channel. LMAO... :rotfl:

TLAM Strike · 03-25-06, 10:37 PM

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The topic goes from Russia giving intell to Iraq to the collapse of the US...you guys are like watching the sci-fi channel. LMAO... :rotfl:

Juse because you mentioned Sci-Fi, have a thing for religous quotes and I need something to do...

"Some would ask, how could a perfect God create a universe filled with so much that is evil. They have missed a greater conundrum: why would a perfect God create a universe at all?"

Sister Miriam Godwinson
"But for the Grace of God"

"And so we return again to the holy void. Some say this is simply our destiny, but I would have you remember always that the void EXISTS, just as surely as you or I. Is nothingness any less a miracle than substance?"

Sister Miriam Godwinson
"We Must Dissent"

"Men in their arrogance claim to understand the nature of creation, and devise elaborate theories to describe its behavior. But always they discover in the end that God was quite a bit more clever than they thought."

Sister Miriam Godwinson
"We Must Dissent"

and well has nothing to do with anything, I just love this one...

"I don't know but I've been told,
Deirdre's got a Network Node.
Likes to press the on-off switch,
Dig that crazy Gaian witch!"

Spartan Barracks March

All from the TSG Sid Meier's Alpha Centauri
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03-25-06, 04:40 PM	#16
Type941 Ace of the Deep Join Date: May 2005 Location: U-52 Posts: 1,270 Downloads: 2 Uploads: 0	i think we forget the reason states JOIN together is because it's hard for them to live on their own in the first place. But ok, if they are some oil rich Texas, who knows, but I think it's very far fetched. Anyway, use will chop off some parts of canada if it loses some territory to its mexian friends. __________________ Sink the Bismarck SH3 Movie

03-25-06, 09:33 PM	#20
Iceman Ace of the Deep Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Mesa AZ, Arizona, USA Posts: 1,253 Downloads: 5 Uploads: 0	The topic goes from Russia giving intell to Iraq to the collapse of the US...you guys are like watching the sci-fi channel. LMAO... :rotfl: