We've been detected sir! we are been pinged sir!

Originally Posted by Oberon

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RUB disables both messages, but the crew still ducks down when you've been spotted and everybody instantly starts whispering even when your 'scope is spotted.

[U-104]

Originally Posted by Oberon

:rotfl: :rotfl:

[xrvjorn]

Originally Posted by Dantenoc

And about wether or not their pshychic... no, not really. There's lots of clues that can give away the fact that you have been detected... As a matter of fact, one example of such a clue is when your watch crew ducks down... an enemy observer could then point out to his captain "they know they've been detected!" and he wouldn't really need any psichyc powers, now would he?

Yes he would, because I wrote "when submerged"...

[Dantenoc]

Originally Posted by xrvjorn

Yes he would, because I wrote "when submerged"...

Well, I was speaking in general terms, not about your example in particular. However, It should be even easier to know if you've been detected if your underwater, by virtue of the hydrophone. If there is sudden cavitation from the enemy, or heavy and sudden maneuvering, or enemy guns starting to fire... etc etc. I would, of course, grant you that it would have been best to have a different message for each situation, like "Heavy cavitation from enemy ship sir!" and stuff like that. The "we've been detected" message is meant as a catch-all solution for all these different situations.

Again, if anything, the crew is maybe a little bit to good at it, I'll grant you that, but It's not completely unrealistic. I think this is another instance of a "compensatory-realism" that is applied in an effort to make the "whole experience" more realistic even if you have to use a not so realistic feature to acomplish it.

One last thought. In an effort for realism, RuB makes it even MORE UNREALISTIC, since now nobody ever boders to tell you wether you been detected or not... not the hydrophone/sonar operator, not the radar man, not the watch officer and watch crew, nobody.... they'll never tel you anything no matter what. That doesn't really correspond with reality. The naval armed forces of all the world are notorious for their "by-the-book" procedures, even if you think that it may be to obvious to even bother with it, they'll still bother with redundant behaviour like repeating every order that has been given to them, or having someone read the depth every so often when going down on a sub, etc. etc.

I still like RuB for some of it's other features though.