Who is considering this Falklands Argie v Brit flight sim?

[VON_CAPO]

It looks very interesting.
David against Goliath.









Look at the Royal Navy's last FLAK defense line. :hmm:
Pay attention to the Mirage in the first pic.



And this last pic is incredible

[Oberon]

One to add to that collection.

[sonar732]

Just think if Argentina would've ultilized their submarines better against the British task force... :hmm:

[Skybird]

Originally Posted by sonar732

Just think if Argentina would've ultilized their submarines better against the British task force... :hmm:

That's exactly what I thought myself often, too...

[diver]

Just think if Argentina would've ultilized their submarines better against the British task force...

The problem was more the bad condition they were in and the poor training of their crew. By all accounts the San Luis was poised to cause some havoc but couldn't work her torps properly.

The other of there newer subs couldnt dive, not much use. And the two WW2 balao class were just as useless.

Training and funding were the decisive factors of the submarine chapter in the Sth Atlantic, and both of those were long since decided before the war was even imagined.

[Godalmighty83]

just imagine what would have happened if the british sub commanders were given free reign and didnt have to ask the prime minister to fire.

a lot of tonnage would have gone down.

[TLAM Strike]

Originally Posted by diver

The problem was more the bad condition they were in and the poor training of their crew. By all accounts the San Luis was poised to cause some havoc but couldn't work her torps properly.

The other of there newer subs couldnt dive, not much use. And the two WW2 balao class were just as useless.

Training and funding were the decisive factors of the submarine chapter in the Sth Atlantic, and both of those were long since decided before the war was even imagined.

Yet the RN never sunk any of them. Forced them to beach but never sunk any in battle...

The boys at Electric Boat know how to buld them!

[VON_CAPO]

Originally Posted by TLAM Strike

I am going to comment this.

The ARA San Luis, a type 209 submarine, was operating into the combat zone, about 14 days ( I do not remember exactly).

She fired against acoustic contacts in two opportunities, and both were a complete failure because of the torpedos.

With regards to this, the crew tried to fix the glitch disassembling partially and checking the fire and tracking control system.
The guide wires that transmit data to the torpedoes were checked too.
But they did not find out what was going on.

Meantime, they were chased by the briton task force, and in the worst moment they saved their lives resting the sub on the bottom and shutting down every system.
The crew recalled this bitterly because the failure and the extreme cold inside the sub.

After the war, technicians from the german Telefunken went to Argentina because of the torpedoes's failure.
In the words of a argentinian navy officer: "The guiltiness is shared, the germans are guilty because a faulty design (he did not dismiss a on purpose negligence), and ours because we trust them and we never tested the equipment in a real launch."

After the germans repaired the malfunction, one torpedo was tested against a old WWII destroyer, from long distance, magnetic fuse, and under the keel. It worked fine and every body was happy, many data was recorded and pictures were taken.

Other San Luis's problem was a noisy propeller, she was scheduled to get into a shipyard that same year. This obligated her to travel at very low RPMs.

An argentine officer said too, that many equipments were not used during the conflict, because they distrust them, such as the airplanes's friend-foe identification devices (british manufacture).
Their words: "- Probably we will never know what kind of hidden features those chips are containing."

ARA San luis.
Background: carrier ARA 25 de Mayo.



ARA San Luis reloading torpedoes



San Luis's crew during their war patrol.
As you can see, it is very cold in there.




Guppy Class 3rd Generation. A.R.A. "SANATA FE" S-21



Subofficer ARTUSO, killed in the attack to A.R.A. SANTA FE at GRYTVIKEN - 1982
Look at the old equipment.



Torpedo test, 1987.



Periscope's view, a fishing boat.

[Konovalov]

Interesting info Von Capo.

[Wim Libaers]

Originally Posted by lesrae

Kapitain, not to rag you mate but as it's going to be in all your posts, your signature should be:

Gentlemen in light of this morning's events I'm compelled to remind you that we are meant to be monitoring thier ASW exercise ....... NOT PARTICIPATING IN IT !

Just saving Abraham the trouble

And also change the "thier" to "their".

[lesrae]

Originally Posted by Wim Libaers

And also change the "thier" to "their".

Missed that one :O)

[U-214]

This is not about a game ,but for the real life.If anyone is interested,here is a tribute video of the Argentinian Airforce during the Falklands war:



Even if i am not Argentinian i felt moved by it.Look how low they were flying to avoid radar detection from the British ships.That same low altitute made many bombs not to explode on impact.

Regards

EDITED:File removed because wrong.Scroll down to my new post below with the correct link

[lesrae]

Originally Posted by U-214

Look how low they were flying to avoid radar detection from the British ships.That same low altitute made many bombs not to explode on impact.

Operating in a way that makes your weapons ineffective isn't generally acknowledged as a clever thing to do.

[U-214]

Hmm,they changed the file in the link.I will try to find the one i knew.

Operating in a way that makes your weapons ineffective isn't generally acknowledged as a clever thing to do.

I agree in theory.In practice,you have two choices if your weapons aren't high tech.

1)Fly high ,risk to be blown out of the sky by AA missiles of enemy ships and aircrafts and lose your target (ship).
2)Fly low so to manage to arrive to your target undetected and take your chances with the crappy bombs you have.

[U-214]

OK,here must be the file i knew.54 MB

http://www.filefactory.com/get/v3/f2...694cb5d6b29231

Click on the free download option