LuftWolf and Amizaur's Realism Mod Poll #6: CAPTOR - Page 2

LuftWolf · 01-04-06, 01:01 PM

There is also a fair bit of sorting through the propaganda...

This weapon system has the potential to be very powerful and make the airdale vs. bubblehead a bit different, so I want to make sure I'm not going with the "naval contractor brochure" version of the weapon.

In any case, the range at which the acoustic sensors could classify a slow moving submarine would probably be very short, something along the lines of a DIFAR or maybe VLAD, so I think we could include it's full capability along these lines and not break anything for gameplay.

XabbaRus · 01-04-06, 02:52 PM

P-3C doesn't carry CAPTOR though.

Not according to www.fas.org or www.globalsecurity.org though it might have been able to at some time.

LuftWolf · 01-04-06, 03:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by XabbaRus

P-3C doesn't carry CAPTOR though.

Not according to www.fas.org or www.globalsecurity.org though it might have been able to at some time.

I'm not going to let that spoil our fun.

I always see DW happening not right this second, but at some mix of times or in the near future. That gives us the best frame of mind to make the game as interesting as possible.

TLAM Strike · 01-04-06, 04:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by XabbaRus

P-3C doesn't carry CAPTOR though.

Not according to www.fas.org or www.globalsecurity.org though it might have been able to at some time.

Right because the Navy uses the Lockheed L-188 Electra for its mining operations...

OneShot · 01-04-06, 04:40 PM

Well the P-3 definitly is able to carry it : "The aircraft can carry a variety of weapons internally and on wing pylons, such as the Harpoon anti-surfacemissile, the MK-50 torpedo and the MK-60 mine."

- http://www.fas.org/man/dod-101/sys/ac/p-3.htm
- http://www.globalsecurity.org/milita...rcraft/p-3.htm

Cheers
OS

Furia · 01-04-06, 04:43 PM

it may not be the FAS or Global Security but on the Orion Warrior page the Mk-60 is listed as one of the weapons of the P-3 and I give Smuok as much credit as I give to FAS on this.
Actually FAS and Global security do not exclude the use of the Mk-60 but simple state that the Orion can carry a wide array of weapons including such and such..
The MK-60 is the most advanced ASW mine and it is designed to be deleivered by Air or Subamrine. I see no reason why the P-3C cannot carry them.
I would vouch for having it on DW unless our Bubblehead friends feel unconfident to have to face real type weapons and human manned platforms delivering them

XabbaRus · 01-04-06, 05:06 PM

I never read the article. Just went straight to the spec sheet at the bottom of the page listing weapons and listed weapons didn't mention the MK-60. Sorry if I caused offence.

However according to this http://www.exwar.org/Htm/ConceptDocs...appendix_e.htm

CAPTOR was removed from the inventory in FY02 that report is from here: http://www.navy.mil/palib/cno/n75/Htm/4000.htm

By all means include it just my quick look showed the P-3 didn't carry it...
wow.

View Poll Results: Should I replace the 1000lbs airdropped mine on the P-3 with the Mk60 CAPTOR (mine firing Mk46 torpe
Yes, replace the 1000lbs mine with the CAPTOR	23	85.19%
No, keep the 1000lbs mine.	4	14.81%
Voters: 27. You may not vote on this poll

01-04-06, 01:01 PM	#16
LuftWolf Ocean Warrior Join Date: May 2005 Location: Free New York Posts: 3,167 Downloads: 2 Uploads: 0	There is also a fair bit of sorting through the propaganda... This weapon system has the potential to be very powerful and make the airdale vs. bubblehead a bit different, so I want to make sure I'm not going with the "naval contractor brochure" version of the weapon. In any case, the range at which the acoustic sensors could classify a slow moving submarine would probably be very short, something along the lines of a DIFAR or maybe VLAD, so I think we could include it's full capability along these lines and not break anything for gameplay. __________________ LW

01-04-06, 02:52 PM	#17
XabbaRus Navy Seal Join Date: Sep 2001 Posts: 5,330 Downloads: 5 Uploads: 0	P-3C doesn't carry CAPTOR though. Not according to www.fas.org or www.globalsecurity.org though it might have been able to at some time. __________________

01-04-06, 04:40 PM	#20
OneShot Grey Wolf Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Germany Posts: 956 Downloads: 9 Uploads: 0	Well the P-3 definitly is able to carry it : "The aircraft can carry a variety of weapons internally and on wing pylons, such as the Harpoon anti-surfacemissile, the MK-50 torpedo and the MK-60 mine." - http://www.fas.org/man/dod-101/sys/ac/p-3.htm - http://www.globalsecurity.org/milita...rcraft/p-3.htm Cheers OS __________________ All the things you always wanted to know about Dangerous Waters but never dared to ask!

01-04-06, 04:43 PM	#21
Furia Ensign Join Date: Mar 2001 Posts: 224 Downloads: 95 Uploads: 0	it may not be the FAS or Global Security but on the Orion Warrior page the Mk-60 is listed as one of the weapons of the P-3 and I give Smuok as much credit as I give to FAS on this. Actually FAS and Global security do not exclude the use of the Mk-60 but simple state that the Orion can carry a wide array of weapons including such and such.. The MK-60 is the most advanced ASW mine and it is designed to be deleivered by Air or Subamrine. I see no reason why the P-3C cannot carry them. I would vouch for having it on DW unless our Bubblehead friends feel unconfident to have to face real type weapons and human manned platforms delivering them __________________ Peace and freedom are not free.

01-04-06, 05:06 PM	#22
XabbaRus Navy Seal Join Date: Sep 2001 Posts: 5,330 Downloads: 5 Uploads: 0	I never read the article. Just went straight to the spec sheet at the bottom of the page listing weapons and listed weapons didn't mention the MK-60. Sorry if I caused offence. However according to this http://www.exwar.org/Htm/ConceptDocs...appendix_e.htm CAPTOR was removed from the inventory in FY02 that report is from here: http://www.navy.mil/palib/cno/n75/Htm/4000.htm By all means include it just my quick look showed the P-3 didn't carry it... wow. __________________