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Nico71 · 12-21-05, 04:09 PM

When Hjalamrson releases stuff it's generally payware. In this particular case it's either a hoax (like the advertised Gato class sub) or simply stolen!

sergbuto · 12-21-05, 04:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Marhkimov

Before you get too far, perhaps that is not your southampton...

Ye, right. Like I can't recognize what I did.

Marhkimov · 12-21-05, 04:10 PM

but all you did was simply clone the fiji class cruiser, and made a few changes...

Any clone modder could have done that...

How can you be so sure that "they" used your exact ship?

sergbuto · 12-21-05, 04:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Marhkimov

but all you did was simply clone the fiji class cruiser, and made a few changes...

Any clone modder could have done that...

Then I suggest you compare them (Southampton and Fiji) in detail.

Nico71 · 12-21-05, 04:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Marhkimov

but all you did was simply clone the fiji class cruiser, and made a few changes...

Any clone modder could have done that...

Yeah, that's true! Especially as Hjalmarson has proven already that he's quite good in cloning stuff! :rotfl:

Marhkimov · 12-21-05, 04:14 PM

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Originally Posted by sergbuto

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Originally Posted by Marhkimov

but all you did was simply clone the fiji class cruiser, and made a few changes...

Any clone modder could have done that...

Then I suggest you compare them (Southampton and Fiji) in detail.

I did. Many times in the museum, I flipped back and forth between Fiji and Southampton, and only noticed the rearward angled funnels and removed walrus.

I'm just saying that it could be pure coincidence, that someone else ALSO could have made their own clone of the Southampton...

joea · 12-21-05, 04:23 PM

The Kent looks like cr0p, just an Admiral Hipper with a couple of extra stacks.

(Darn no puke smilie).

Marhkimov · 12-21-05, 04:24 PM

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Originally Posted by joea

The Kent looks like cr0p, just an Admiral Hipper with a couple of extra stacks.

(Darn no puke smilie).

True, but we don't have a Hipper with 3 'stacks yet... :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl:

sergbuto · 12-21-05, 04:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Marhkimov

I did. Many times in the museum, I flipped back and forth between Fiji and Southampton, and only noticed the rearward angled funnels and removed walrus.

That is not it. Take screenies and compare.

Maybe, I should have licenced Southampton to Hjalamrson when he asked about that and should not have kept it available for free. Certainly I may think about that when I will make real Italian ships and not the reshuffled stuff from the pecies available in SH3.

Marhkimov · 12-21-05, 04:26 PM

Why would you team up with that guy???

Nico71 · 12-21-05, 04:28 PM

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Originally Posted by sergbuto

That is not it. Take screenies and compare.

Maybe, I should have licenced Southampton to Hjalamrson when he asked about that and not to keep it available for free. Certainly I may think about that when I will make real Italian ships and not the reshuffled stuff from the pecies available in SH3.

Being a modeller myself, I'd recommend that you "watermark" your stuff by adding small errors deliberately or add small, barely noticeable, ahistorical details to your models.

Marhkimov · 12-21-05, 04:31 PM

Yes, but why do you guys care about marking your work?

Isn't it enough to be satisfied that you made something, for the pleasure and benefit of others?

I'm not a modeller, but I've made plenty of texture mods myself. And for all I care, you can go ahead and steal my work. You can even take the credit for it. I have no worries about that.

Because I know in my heart that I benefited the community... And any JERK who decides to steal my work and claim it as his own... Well, that's HIS problem, not mine...

Nico71 · 12-21-05, 04:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Marhkimov

Yes, but why do you guys care about marking your work?

Isn't it enough to be satisfied that you made something, for the pleasure and benefit of others?

I'm not a modeller, but I've made plenty of texture mods myself. And for all I care, you can go ahead and steal my work. You can even take the credit for it. I have no worries about that.

Because I know in my heart that I benefited the community... And any JERK who decides to steal my work and claim it as his own... Well, that's HIS problem, not mine...

So you do all the work for free while this guy sells your stuff for profit? His profit, of course! That's called (commercial) software piracy.

Marhkimov · 12-21-05, 04:37 PM

I'm cool with it... I wonder if his conscience is?

Dowly · 12-21-05, 04:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Marhkimov

I'm cool with it... I wonder if his conscience is?

As long as they get the money, they donÂ´t care.

12-21-05, 04:10 PM	#18
Marhkimov Admiral Join Date: May 2005 Location: Bay Area, California, USA Posts: 2,377 Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	but all you did was simply clone the fiji class cruiser, and made a few changes... Any clone modder could have done that... How can you be so sure that "they" used your exact ship? __________________ It takes two to tango

12-21-05, 04:26 PM	#25
Marhkimov Admiral Join Date: May 2005 Location: Bay Area, California, USA Posts: 2,377 Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	Why would you team up with that guy??? __________________ It takes two to tango

12-21-05, 04:31 PM	#27
Marhkimov Admiral Join Date: May 2005 Location: Bay Area, California, USA Posts: 2,377 Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	Yes, but why do you guys care about marking your work? Isn't it enough to be satisfied that you made something, for the pleasure and benefit of others? I'm not a modeller, but I've made plenty of texture mods myself. And for all I care, you can go ahead and steal my work. You can even take the credit for it. I have no worries about that. Because I know in my heart that I benefited the community... And any JERK who decides to steal my work and claim it as his own... Well, that's HIS problem, not mine... __________________ It takes two to tango

12-21-05, 04:37 PM	#29
Marhkimov Admiral Join Date: May 2005 Location: Bay Area, California, USA Posts: 2,377 Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	I'm cool with it... I wonder if his conscience is? __________________ It takes two to tango

12-21-05, 04:09 PM	#16
Nico71 Medic Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: Germany Posts: 168 Downloads: 145 Uploads: 0	When Hjalamrson releases stuff it's generally payware. In this particular case it's either a hoax (like the advertised Gato class sub) or simply stolen!

12-21-05, 04:23 PM	#22
joea Silent Hunter Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: At periscope depth in Lake Geneva Posts: 3,512 Downloads: 25 Uploads: 0	The Kent looks like cr0p, just an Admiral Hipper with a couple of extra stacks. (Darn no puke smilie).