Time for a change! CW JET FIGHTERS!! - Page 2

The Avon Lady · 11-07-05, 02:44 AM

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How should I know?

I would have pegged you for a Phantom or Mirage gal since you Israelis sure now how to use them!

We sure put a few of the IAFâ€™s nasty tricks to good use over North Vietnam.

Planes have never been my strong subject, certainly not older ones. And I'm a flight-sim school flunky.

But yes, I know enough to say that the IAF really seemed to have squeezed the maximum out of an F4. They're still using Skyhawks, especially for training.

My son has a subscription to the IAF's glossy montly/semi-monthly magazine (in Hebrew). Very impressive pics and articles on this past, present and future. Every now and then, I garner a little bit more info from there for my general knowledge.

TLAM Strike · 11-07-05, 02:55 AM

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I just love the Phantom- still flying her in FreeFalcon Vietnam.,

'' Light ''relief from the F16.
Picture my Phantom flight flying over the delta at dawn spewing gas - silhouetted against a multi-colored sky.
Not PC but a very, very atmospheric scene.

When it comes to the Phantom screw all the PC crap!

"We train young men to drop fire on people. But their commanders won't allow them to write '****' on their airplanes because it's obscene!"

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But yes, I know enough to say that the IAF really seemed to have squeezed the maximum out of an F4. They're still using Skyhawks, especially for training.

Oh yea Skyhawks, another great aircraft. One of the USN's A-4s managed to kill a MiG with three Zuni rockets in a dogfight once. My dad was assigned to a A-4 Squadron as a Aviation Storekeeper, VA-212. He was also with a A-7 Corsair squad VA-122 doing the same. Hes fond of saying "the A-7 could carry an A-6 [Intruder]!" Which is nearly the truth.

XabbaRus · 11-07-05, 04:02 AM

Free Falcon, is that the mod for Falcon 4.0 or an open source thingy.

Excuse my ignorance. Also is there any point getting Falcon 4.0 and putting on the mods now Falcon 4.0 Allied Force is out?

Abraham · 11-07-05, 04:19 AM

The Phantom of course, especially the latest versions. Over-powered, over-equipped and over-armed it could crush everything.
But a real fighter?

I voted for the F-100. A real good old fighter plane, that I identify with the late '50's early '60's, just like the MiG 19. I would also name the F-5 for it's agility, even the A-4!

Sixpack · 11-07-05, 05:04 AM

The double ugly ofcourse.

Too bad Strike Fighters was such a lousy simulator. Enjoyed flying that era.

Syxx_Killer · 11-07-05, 09:13 AM

I'd have to vote for the MiG-21 as well. I like the F-4, too, but that MiG is cool. I remember playing Chuck Yeager's Air Combat. You could fly the F-4 and the MiG-21 is I remember right.

Bellman · 11-07-05, 10:11 AM

Xab:- ''any point in FreeFalcon now...AF is out''

http://www.freefalcon.com/

Well for sure you wont fly the brick in Vietnam in AF, nor fly the F16, or other aircraft in campaigns in the Israel,
European and Desert Storm Theatres.

AF has delivered much improved game stability and many improvements to the campaign engine.
You can run the ground war now. Both games have advantages and disadvantages so I run both.

Bellman · 11-07-05, 10:13 AM

...................and 3 versions of RTW.

Kresge · 11-07-05, 11:43 AM

Since the Avro Arrow was scraped, I'll go with the F-4 for its ability to bring so much to the battlefield.

Kaleun · 11-07-05, 11:52 AM

hi,

Got to be "other" in the poll as i'm from the UK and we had some fine cold war planes, particularly notable were the Hawker Hunter and the English Electric Lightning.

Kaleun

Kapitan · 11-07-05, 12:48 PM

what about the avro vulcan the victor and vailant bombers?

TLAM Strike · 11-07-05, 12:51 PM

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hi,

Got to be "other" in the poll as i'm from the UK and we had some fine cold war planes, particularly notable were the Hawker Hunter and the English Electric Lightning.

Kaleun

The Lighting was in Interceptor...

But you brits sure built some great aircraft.

The only reason the Hunter wasn't on the list was that its first flight was in the early 50's so it was a few years older than most on the list... I would have loved to included it, but 'other' fills the role of 'older, but still in service'.

TLAM Strike · 11-07-05, 12:52 PM

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what about the avro vulcan the victor and vailant bombers?

This is about Fighters, not bombers or attack jets or interceptors.

Kapitan · 11-07-05, 01:13 PM

no but it comes under others dont it

TLAM Strike · 11-07-05, 01:54 PM

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no but it comes under others dont it

No others is for other fighters.

Unless you want to take a Vulcan in to a dogfight! :hmm:

View Poll Results: Whatâ€™s the best Mid Cold War Jet Fighter (1953-1967)?
F-100 Super Saber	1	3.57%
F-105 Thunderchief	1	3.57%
F-8 Crusader	2	7.14%
F-5 Freedom Fighter	1	3.57%
F-4 Phantom	9	32.14%
MiG-19 or MiG-21 or Su-7	10	35.71%
Super Etendard or Mirage	1	3.57%
Other (of which there are no doubt many)	3	10.71%
Voters: 28. You may not vote on this poll

11-07-05, 04:02 AM	#18
XabbaRus Navy Seal Join Date: Sep 2001 Posts: 5,330 Downloads: 5 Uploads: 0	Free Falcon, is that the mod for Falcon 4.0 or an open source thingy. Excuse my ignorance. Also is there any point getting Falcon 4.0 and putting on the mods now Falcon 4.0 Allied Force is out? __________________

11-07-05, 04:19 AM	#19
Abraham Eternal Patrol Moderator Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 1,572 Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	Time for a change! CW JET FIGHTERS!! The Phantom of course, especially the latest versions. Over-powered, over-equipped and over-armed it could crush everything. But a real fighter? I voted for the F-100. A real good old fighter plane, that I identify with the late '50's early '60's, just like the MiG 19. I would also name the F-5 for it's agility, even the A-4! __________________ RIP Abraham

11-07-05, 05:04 AM	#20
Sixpack Samurai Navy Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: below North Sea level (iow Holland) Posts: 592 Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	The double ugly ofcourse. Too bad Strike Fighters was such a lousy simulator. Enjoyed flying that era. __________________ \"Navigare necesse est, vivere non est necesse\"

11-07-05, 10:11 AM	#22
Bellman Sea Lord Join Date: Feb 2004 Posts: 1,945 Downloads: 220 Uploads: 0	Xab:- ''any point in FreeFalcon now...AF is out'' http://www.freefalcon.com/ Well for sure you wont fly the brick in Vietnam in AF, nor fly the F16, or other aircraft in campaigns in the Israel, European and Desert Storm Theatres. AF has delivered much improved game stability and many improvements to the campaign engine. You can run the ground war now. Both games have advantages and disadvantages so I run both. __________________ Liberty, Equality, Fraternity

11-07-05, 09:13 AM	#21
Syxx_Killer Admiral Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: Michigan, USA Posts: 2,387 Downloads: 21 Uploads: 0	I'd have to vote for the MiG-21 as well. I like the F-4, too, but that MiG is cool. I remember playing Chuck Yeager's Air Combat. You could fly the F-4 and the MiG-21 is I remember right.

11-07-05, 10:13 AM	#23
Bellman Sea Lord Join Date: Feb 2004 Posts: 1,945 Downloads: 220 Uploads: 0	...................and 3 versions of RTW. __________________ Liberty, Equality, Fraternity

11-07-05, 11:43 AM	#24
Kresge Engineer Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: The Motor City Posts: 209 Downloads: 4 Uploads: 0	Since the Avro Arrow was scraped, I'll go with the F-4 for its ability to bring so much to the battlefield. __________________ ". . . sailors do not fancy living underwater without breathing in sunshine occasionally." Commodore Joseph Smith commenting on the USS Monitor

11-07-05, 11:52 AM	#25
Kaleun Chief Join Date: Jul 2003 Posts: 329 Downloads: 266 Uploads: 0	hi, Got to be "other" in the poll as i'm from the UK and we had some fine cold war planes, particularly notable were the Hawker Hunter and the English Electric Lightning. Kaleun

11-07-05, 12:48 PM	#26
Kapitan Sub Test Pilot Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: UK + Canada Posts: 7,130 Downloads: 77 Uploads: 7	what about the avro vulcan the victor and vailant bombers? __________________ DONT FORGET if you like a post to nominate it by using the blue diamond Find out about Museum Ships here: https://www.museumships.us/ Flickr for all my pictures: https://www.flickr.com/photos/131313936@N03/ Navy general board articles: https://www.navygeneralboard.com/author/aegis/

11-07-05, 01:13 PM	#29
Kapitan Sub Test Pilot Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: UK + Canada Posts: 7,130 Downloads: 77 Uploads: 7	no but it comes under others dont it __________________ DONT FORGET if you like a post to nominate it by using the blue diamond Find out about Museum Ships here: https://www.museumships.us/ Flickr for all my pictures: https://www.flickr.com/photos/131313936@N03/ Navy general board articles: https://www.navygeneralboard.com/author/aegis/