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Kapitan · 10-24-05, 12:45 PM

russians put thier waste into a bag and put it into a sort of can thing and then squash it into the can and eject it over board

LuftWolf · 10-24-05, 04:43 PM

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there is a possible risk of detection element here

So, Bellman, you've heard about the Russian work on sail-mounted crap detectors?

Bellman · 10-25-05, 01:15 AM

:rotfl: ''Sail mounted...........''
LW Why do you think Kapitain reported 'close pursuit' tactics.

Hes also given away details of their latest secret weapon above. Note the packing into a ''sort of can''

He'd have us believe that its merely ''ejected over the side''

That 'can' which is 'ejected' is a crap torpedo. Its purpose, I gather, is twofold. Firstly the non-hostile removal
of the offensive and detectable material to a 'safe' distance away from the sub.Secondly in wartime action
it marks an opponent like a paintball or dye. The Mark C Torp has been designed to 'mark with c*** (sic)
The target platform is unaware that it has a limpet attachment which slowly diffuses its very traceable contents
that are tracked by sophisticated sail-mounted sensors on the Russian sub.

Kapitan · 10-25-05, 01:20 AM

huh?

TLAM Strike · 10-25-05, 01:29 AM

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Originally Posted by LuftWolf

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there is a possible risk of detection element here

So, Bellman, you've heard about the Russian work on sail-mounted crap detectors?

No you got it all wrong, its towed behind the boat so it can detect when a NATO sub is trailing them by the sanitary tank dumps. The Victor IIIs where the 1st to have them.

Also the newest Akulas have three detectors mounted forward of the sail for when they are tracking US Aircraft Carriers since all the aviators aboard leave a massive wake of Bull S*it behind it.

LuftWolf · 10-25-05, 01:30 AM

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all the aviators aboard leave a massive wake of Bull S*it behind it

:rotfl:

Sounds about right, since I'm pretty sure Russian sonars could only detect a Nimitz once they've been basically run over by it.

OKO · 10-25-05, 01:33 AM

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Originally Posted by Kapitain

russians put thier waste into a bag and put it into a sort of can thing and then squash it into the can and eject it over board

French do the same and put additionnal weight in the bag to be sure nothing will go to surface.
Some subs were detected with this : nothing more revelant than a package of biscuit in french or any language to know there is some non expected sub in the area ...
I know waste ejection is a complex process on our subs, to avoid any sign of the sub presence.

LuftWolf · 10-25-05, 01:44 AM

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a package of biscuit

I've never heard it called that before... :rotfl:

OKO · 10-25-05, 01:59 AM

well ... there is not only toilet waste to eject, but also garbage.
And garbage is the most important part, in weight and volume.
When you have some package floating with foreign language on it, you could imagine there is some unexpected foreign ship around, and if you have nothing on radar ...
The history of garbage is not fiction, it happens, and this conduct french navy to introduce a special process to avoid it anymore, 30 years ago.
I don't know about other navies ... but I suppose they do the same.

Bellman · 10-25-05, 03:26 AM

:rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl:
TLAM

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since all the aviators aboard leave a massive wake of Bull S*it behind it.

I'm gonna take that one real personal.....My tanks are full bruv and Im heading your way.

Bellman · 10-26-05, 03:47 AM

'' The History of Garbage.''

Close to home - look at the postings in 'General' on the SS. Human GIGO.
Still, on topic, the printouts make good toilet paper.

Bellman · 10-26-05, 04:14 AM

OKO:-

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I know waste ejection is a complex process on our subs, to avoid any sign of the sub presence

Bill:-

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The sanitary tanks are periodically emptied by pumping the waste to sea

Seriously this is a real issue. It seems that the French have the answer by clearing it from the sub possibly in
bio-degradable containers. But this entails the risk in surfacing (?) so may not be as secure as other possible solutions.
The weight reduction must impinge on 'future' performance as whilst equilibrium is maintained by its replacement
with water, this can be discharged for greater bouyancy. So your performance potential has improved.

On a long patrol in Cold War like conditions its an issue which will require carefull route planning.

Bellman · 10-27-05, 09:24 AM

More 'bilge':-

http://www.maritime.org/fleetsub/trim/chap3.htm
http://www.hnsa.org/doc/fleetsub/chap2.htm

Bellman · 10-28-05, 02:37 AM

Appro pros nothing - but just seen a player with the handle-
''Nippelspanner'' Sorry - just cant stop chucklin.

:rotfl:

Bellman · 10-31-05, 11:44 AM

Coming up for some fresh air can I draw your attention to the archive of the BBC 4's In our Time' programmes.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/radio4/history/...ive_home.shtml

MP3 downloads and internet links are provided for recordings of the 45 minute programmes, chaired by Melvyn Bragg, with a team of academics, ranging over topics from Science, History, Culture, Art, Literature, Philosophy and religion.

Some good tasters for further reading - take your pick from an extensive list - have a look.

10-24-05, 12:45 PM	#16
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10-25-05, 01:15 AM	#18
Bellman Sea Lord Join Date: Feb 2004 Posts: 1,945 Downloads: 220 Uploads: 0	:rotfl: ''Sail mounted...........'' LW Why do you think Kapitain reported 'close pursuit' tactics. Hes also given away details of their latest secret weapon above. Note the packing into a ''sort of can'' He'd have us believe that its merely ''ejected over the side'' That 'can' which is 'ejected' is a crap torpedo. Its purpose, I gather, is twofold. Firstly the non-hostile removal of the offensive and detectable material to a 'safe' distance away from the sub.Secondly in wartime action it marks an opponent like a paintball or dye. The Mark C Torp has been designed to 'mark with c*** (sic) The target platform is unaware that it has a limpet attachment which slowly diffuses its very traceable contents that are tracked by sophisticated sail-mounted sensors on the Russian sub. __________________ Liberty, Equality, Fraternity

10-25-05, 01:20 AM	#19
Kapitan Sub Test Pilot Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: UK + Canada Posts: 7,130 Downloads: 77 Uploads: 7	huh? __________________ DONT FORGET if you like a post to nominate it by using the blue diamond Find out about Museum Ships here: https://www.museumships.us/ Flickr for all my pictures: https://www.flickr.com/photos/131313936@N03/ Navy general board articles: https://www.navygeneralboard.com/author/aegis/

10-26-05, 03:47 AM	#26
Bellman Sea Lord Join Date: Feb 2004 Posts: 1,945 Downloads: 220 Uploads: 0	'' The History of Garbage.'' Close to home - look at the postings in 'General' on the SS. Human GIGO. Still, on topic, the printouts make good toilet paper. __________________ Liberty, Equality, Fraternity

10-27-05, 09:24 AM	#28
Bellman Sea Lord Join Date: Feb 2004 Posts: 1,945 Downloads: 220 Uploads: 0	More 'bilge':- http://www.maritime.org/fleetsub/trim/chap3.htm http://www.hnsa.org/doc/fleetsub/chap2.htm __________________ Liberty, Equality, Fraternity

10-25-05, 01:59 AM	#24
OKO Commander Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Solar system, mainly on earth Posts: 476 Downloads: 62 Uploads: 0	well ... there is not only toilet waste to eject, but also garbage. And garbage is the most important part, in weight and volume. When you have some package floating with foreign language on it, you could imagine there is some unexpected foreign ship around, and if you have nothing on radar ... The history of garbage is not fiction, it happens, and this conduct french navy to introduce a special process to avoid it anymore, 30 years ago. I don't know about other navies ... but I suppose they do the same.

10-28-05, 02:37 AM	#29
Bellman Sea Lord Join Date: Feb 2004 Posts: 1,945 Downloads: 220 Uploads: 0	Appro pros nothing - but just seen a player with the handle- ''Nippelspanner'' Sorry - just cant stop chucklin. :rotfl: __________________ Liberty, Equality, Fraternity

10-31-05, 11:44 AM	#30
Bellman Sea Lord Join Date: Feb 2004 Posts: 1,945 Downloads: 220 Uploads: 0	Coming up for some fresh air can I draw your attention to the archive of the BBC 4's In our Time' programmes. http://www.bbc.co.uk/radio4/history/...ive_home.shtml MP3 downloads and internet links are provided for recordings of the 45 minute programmes, chaired by Melvyn Bragg, with a team of academics, ranging over topics from Science, History, Culture, Art, Literature, Philosophy and religion. Some good tasters for further reading - take your pick from an extensive list - have a look. __________________ Liberty, Equality, Fraternity