Dive or shoot? - Page 2

Kissaki · 10-20-05, 02:31 PM

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The attack was a beauty to watch on the external cam. 19 Sunderlands attacking me. Altogether 6 planes collided with each other. Of course I got no credit for those!

That really annoys me when it happens to me. Who's to stop me from recording them as kills? Who'd know?

The pilots? Of course, who are they gonna tell?

Yeah, and even if they survived, I'm sure they'd be more than happy to corroborate my version of the story. Wouldn't you rather say you were shot down than crashed into your friend? :P

wetwarev7 · 10-20-05, 02:35 PM

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Originally Posted by Kissaki

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Originally Posted by Takao

The attack was a beauty to watch on the external cam. 19 Sunderlands attacking me. Altogether 6 planes collided with each other. Of course I got no credit for those!

That really annoys me when it happens to me. Who's to stop me from recording them as kills? Who'd know?

The pilots? Of course, who are they gonna tell?

Yeah, and even if they survived, I'm sure they'd be more than happy to corroborate my version of the story. Wouldn't you rather say you were shot down than crashed into your friend? :P

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Good point.

Schnee · 10-20-05, 03:15 PM

I have one that still rings with disbelief. I was jumped by a Liberator, promptly crash dived and as I went to the periscope station to lower the scope, in comes the Liberator, doing a flaming cartwheel ahead of me and crashes! No, I didn't fire a shot.

I also didn't get credit for the kill ....bummer (i always c/d when approached by an aircraft).

FAdmiral · 10-20-05, 03:26 PM

Now, what British commander in his right mind would send out
19 Sunderlands to attack one sub??? A German Battleship
maybe but one stinking little U-Boat, no way....at least not in
reality, only in gaming !!!

JIM

HKreutzkopf · 10-20-05, 03:53 PM

I am very cautious about planes. To dive and hard turn is obvious in plane attacks because I got first ever damage in SH by plane attack (pump out, aft torpedo room flooded). I was somehow too slow in that case

But I had another kind of experience too. Just man the AA gun with a proper skilled man and man the bridge with AA-skilled WO. Let them to take shooting planes, but itself, be a captain, don't try to be a hero in all cases - try to steer the boot. As irreguarily as you can.

Result: 1 Hurricane and 1 Sunderland in one patrol. First attack including 4 Hurricanes (AM31) killed my default, skilled gunner.

Takao · 10-20-05, 05:03 PM

I leave the AA work to my crew, only a few times do I man it myself.
I can hit the broadside of a ship, but not a pesky little a/c.
Although with the deck gun and late war automatic 37mms, those I like to man myself.

I forgot to add that the 19 a/c was with a vanilla version of SHIII.

snowsub · 10-20-05, 06:03 PM

Was thinking of something last night, does the Deckgun elevate enough to shoot HE rounds at the planes?? :hmm:

One hit kill one would think.
None of this rat-a-tat-tat. Boom, goodnight

EkimRis · 10-20-05, 07:46 PM

my buddy took down a plane coming in low with his deck gun the other day, must have been quite the surprise for the pilot!

panthercules · 10-20-05, 09:11 PM

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Originally Posted by EkimRis

my buddy took down a plane coming in low with his deck gun the other day, must have been quite the surprise for the pilot!

Hey - if a Russian tank can shoot down my Bf-109 with it's main gun in IL-2/FB, then I should be able to shoot down a plane in SH3 with my deck gun - seems only fair

10-20-05, 10:04 PM

When I'm being attacked by AC I place my Flack gunners (PO's) up and my Deck gunners (PO's) up and then man the DG myself. This is the only time I man the DG myself BTW. I let the Fack Gunner's take care of the AC from abeam to astern and I shoot down AC from abeam to Ahead. Its all in the timing with the DG as u only get roughly a 45Â° elevation so U have to wait till the AC is heading away and quite a ways out. Lead just enough and BOOM, 1 dead plane via DG. Best used on the Big ol slow bombers like the B4, Sunderland and Welly.

To many hours spent using DG's on Naval units in games leads to using them for every thing.

joea · 10-21-05, 05:30 AM

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Did they also manufacture the magnetic pistol for the TIIs?

Now that you mention it, the Germans and Americans both had problems with magnetic pistols (and contact pistols, and torps running too deep), but I don't recall reading about any British problems along those lines...

Sure they did. At least with the air dropped torps. During the Bismarck chase the Swordfish from Ark Royal accidently attacked the Sheffield but as the toprs were set for magnetic thay all went off early saving on RN cruiser. They then swtiched to impact, one fish found Bismarcks' rudder...you know the story.

Kissaki · 10-21-05, 05:50 AM

Check out clip #4 of the Otto Kretschmer interviews on this page:

http://www.uboat.net/men/interviews/kretschmer.htm

At the end of the clip he briefly muses over the German, British and American torpedoes. The other clips are also great

HKreutzkopf · 10-21-05, 06:27 AM

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Originally Posted by snowsub

Was thinking of something last night, does the Deckgun elevate enough to shoot HE rounds at the planes?? :hmm:

One hit kill one would think.
None of this rat-a-tat-tat. Boom, goodnight

Maximum elevation angle is too low. And the ammunition isn't proper.

But has anyone tried star shells against low-level planes at night?

ICBM · 10-21-05, 10:40 AM

Wel...... ALAAAAAAAAAAARM!!! FLOOTEN!!

One bomb (small one if lucky) on the deck and you might as well go home, diving would become to dangerous. (in real life that is)

I use RuB so trying to fend of aircraft is suicide anyway.

Lane · 10-21-05, 06:17 PM

What's going on here? :hmm:

I am having Air attack's approx 4am in morning just before dawn.
two times I have been jumped from above and took damage to deck
flak guns and decking happen at lease two times wind's to strong to
man flak guns just made a emg full flank dive. Explosion's rocked
boat on emg dive. Time is Feb 1942 I am using 1.4c with Rubini's HT1.46
I wonder if it may be the Airpower 1.4c HT special version?
I left St Nazaire Jan 1 1942 V11c have been on patrol since Jan 1942
have refueled 3 times from supply ships twice in El Ferrol and Las Palmas harbor Milk cow mod work's great

Just wonder if anybody
else is getting Jumped at night on surface? I aml looking for my first
enemy ship can't find any?
Later
Lane U-553

10-20-05, 03:15 PM	#3
Schnee Engineer Join Date: Oct 2005 Posts: 209 Downloads: 2 Uploads: 0	Aircraft Vs U-Boats I have one that still rings with disbelief. I was jumped by a Liberator, promptly crash dived and as I went to the periscope station to lower the scope, in comes the Liberator, doing a flaming cartwheel ahead of me and crashes! No, I didn't fire a shot. I also didn't get credit for the kill ....bummer (i always c/d when approached by an aircraft).

10-20-05, 03:53 PM	#5
HKreutzkopf Watch Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: Paide, Estonia Posts: 24 Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	I am very cautious about planes. To dive and hard turn is obvious in plane attacks because I got first ever damage in SH by plane attack (pump out, aft torpedo room flooded). I was somehow too slow in that case But I had another kind of experience too. Just man the AA gun with a proper skilled man and man the bridge with AA-skilled WO. Let them to take shooting planes, but itself, be a captain, don't try to be a hero in all cases - try to steer the boot. As irreguarily as you can. Result: 1 Hurricane and 1 Sunderland in one patrol. First attack including 4 Hurricanes (AM31) killed my default, skilled gunner. __________________ Heil Lothar-Günther Buchheim! Heil Otto Dix! Heil Ernst-Ludwig Kirchner! Heil Karl Schmidt-Rotluff! Heil Oskar Kokoschka! Heil Käthe Kollwitz! Heil Max Beckmann! Heil Emil Nolde! Heil Walter Gropius! Heil Ernst Barlach! Last but not least...salute all german expressionists!

10-20-05, 06:03 PM	#7
snowsub 中国水兵 Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Moreton bay Posts: 286 Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	Was thinking of something last night, does the Deckgun elevate enough to shoot HE rounds at the planes?? :hmm: One hit kill one would think. None of this rat-a-tat-tat. Boom, goodnight __________________

10-21-05, 10:40 AM	#14
ICBM Navy Dude Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Holland. Posts: 175 Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	Wel...... ALAAAAAAAAAAARM!!! FLOOTEN!! One bomb (small one if lucky) on the deck and you might as well go home, diving would become to dangerous. (in real life that is) I use RuB so trying to fend of aircraft is suicide anyway. __________________

10-20-05, 03:26 PM	#4
FAdmiral Pacific Aces Dev Team Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: Atlanta, GA, USA Posts: 1,079 Downloads: 6 Uploads: 0	Now, what British commander in his right mind would send out 19 Sunderlands to attack one sub??? A German Battleship maybe but one stinking little U-Boat, no way....at least not in reality, only in gaming !!! JIM __________________ If you\'re not taking losses, you\'re not doing enough. RAdm. Kelly Turner, USN ********************************** www.fairtax.org

10-20-05, 05:03 PM	#6
Takao Officer Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Reading, PA Posts: 244 Downloads: 1 Uploads: 0	I leave the AA work to my crew, only a few times do I man it myself. I can hit the broadside of a ship, but not a pesky little a/c. Although with the deck gun and late war automatic 37mms, those I like to man myself. I forgot to add that the 19 a/c was with a vanilla version of SHIII.

10-20-05, 07:46 PM	#8
EkimRis Swabbie Join Date: Sep 2005 Posts: 11 Downloads: 5 Uploads: 0	my buddy took down a plane coming in low with his deck gun the other day, must have been quite the surprise for the pilot!

10-20-05, 10:04 PM	#10
Cdre Gibs Stowaway Posts: n/a Downloads: Uploads:	When I'm being attacked by AC I place my Flack gunners (PO's) up and my Deck gunners (PO's) up and then man the DG myself. This is the only time I man the DG myself BTW. I let the Fack Gunner's take care of the AC from abeam to astern and I shoot down AC from abeam to Ahead. Its all in the timing with the DG as u only get roughly a 45Â° elevation so U have to wait till the AC is heading away and quite a ways out. Lead just enough and BOOM, 1 dead plane via DG. Best used on the Big ol slow bombers like the B4, Sunderland and Welly. To many hours spent using DG's on Naval units in games leads to using them for every thing.

10-21-05, 05:50 AM	#12
Kissaki Lieutenant Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: Norway Posts: 268 Downloads: 4 Uploads: 0	Check out clip #4 of the Otto Kretschmer interviews on this page: http://www.uboat.net/men/interviews/kretschmer.htm At the end of the clip he briefly muses over the German, British and American torpedoes. The other clips are also great

10-21-05, 06:17 PM	#15
Lane Subsim Diehard Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Southwest , Indiana USA Posts: 380 Downloads: 36 Uploads: 0	What's going on here? :hmm: I am having Air attack's approx 4am in morning just before dawn. two times I have been jumped from above and took damage to deck flak guns and decking happen at lease two times wind's to strong to man flak guns just made a emg full flank dive. Explosion's rocked boat on emg dive. Time is Feb 1942 I am using 1.4c with Rubini's HT1.46 I wonder if it may be the Airpower 1.4c HT special version? I left St Nazaire Jan 1 1942 V11c have been on patrol since Jan 1942 have refueled 3 times from supply ships twice in El Ferrol and Las Palmas harbor Milk cow mod work's great Just wonder if anybody else is getting Jumped at night on surface? I aml looking for my first enemy ship can't find any? Later Lane U-553