Investigation: Air France 296

[Type941]

Originally Posted by Kapitain

see a pattern it might not be just the plane it might be the air line ever thought of that?

I can see it now - the french publish their airline Black list and including Air France on top!

[Abraham]

I prefer Boebus over Airing, but I have to admid I'm slightly confused by the postings on this thread.

[SUBMAN1]

I might be a little confused about the posts on this thread too. Apparently, I am ignorant for not liking the way safety procedures are handled by a company. Seems I am not ignorant considering I know about them. Hahahaha! Seems some people need to go back to school so that they can even understand what the word 'ignorant' even means.

-S

PS. Let me help you:

ig·no·rant ( P ) Pronunciation Key (gnr-nt)
adj.
Lacking education or knowledge.
Showing or arising from a lack of education or knowledge: an ignorant mistake.
Unaware or uninformed.

[The Avon Lady]

Originally Posted by Abraham

I prefer Boebus over Airing

GASP!

Graft in the aviation industry!

[SUBMAN1]

Originally Posted by Kapitain

there is one thing

the airbus when it crashed had its landing gear down and configured for landing when the pilot tried pulling up and adding power the onboard computers stopped it because it would have stalled the plane

either way it would have crashed it was a safty feature that caused the inncident not the plane the plane was purfect the pilot was at fault

Oh - I forgot something - If you bothered to read, the throttles refused to spool up. Another thing, picture this scenario - one that is most likely to kill you by the way since it happens all the time - You are landing and about to touch down and another jet pulls out on the runway. Hmm, computer says you can't do jack, so you just happily plow right into the back and kill everyone in both planes.

That is your most likely crash scenario and the computer telling you you can't do something is idiotic. You must try, and so what if you stalled? Maybe you saved the lives of hundreds of people because you were allowed to attempt the manuver.

-S

[JamesT73J]

Originally Posted by SUBMAN1

Oh - I forgot something - If you bothered to read, the throttles refused to spool up. Another thing, picture this scenario - one that is most likely to kill you by the way since it happens all the time - You are landing and about to touch down and another jet pulls out on the runway. Hmm, computer says you can't do jack, so you just happily plow right into the back and kill everyone in both planes.

That is your most likely crash scenario and the computer telling you you can't do something is idiotic. You must try, and so what if you stalled? Maybe you saved the lives of hundreds of people because you were allowed to attempt the manuver.

-S

You move the throttle out of the climb detent to TOGA, the engines accelerate to takeoff power, and you're off. What's your point?

You're getting your knickers in a twist over Fly by wire. FADEC has been the standard in engine throttle control for two decades now, on all modern aircraft. Like any new technology, it had teething problems, particularly in military applications where the use and performance requirements are more rigourous.

As for cabin room, the A320 has more space than an NG, irrespective of layout. Simple fact.

[Torpedo Fodder]

As for cabin room, the A320 has more space than an NG, irrespective of layout. Simple fact.

As far as I'm aware, the only A320 variant that has more passenger capacity than it's 737 equivilent is in the case of the A321 vs. the 737-900. That will no longer be the case when Boeing introduces the 737-900ER, which will carry only 5 less passengers (215 vs. 220) than the A321 in high-density 1-class configuration.

[SUBMAN1]

Well, I forgot. I guess the Boeing 777 is now the only plane without an accident. The A340 and A330 both have had one. It looks like the A340 had some sort of malfunction too. Sorry for my out of date info.

-S

[Kapitan]

as i recall an el al 747-400 was inspected by the FAA when it landed in new york from tel aviv what they found was shocking

a seat belt from a passenger seat had been strapped to the turbine unit of number two engine to stop it from moving in fact the pilot before hand had reported number two engine had problems but due to scheduals and what have you the maintinance staff over looked this case for the time being.

the aircraft itself had flown from tel aviv to new york on only three engines ok fair play 747 can fly with three and is certified but realy honestly

[The Avon Lady]

Originally Posted by Kapitain

as i recall an el al 747-400 was inspected by the FAA when it landed in new york from tel aviv what they found was shocking

a seat belt from a passenger seat had been strapped to the turbine unit of number two engine to stop it from moving in fact the pilot before hand had reported number two engine had problems but due to scheduals and what have you the maintinance staff over looked this case for the time being.

the aircraft itself had flown from tel aviv to new york on only three engines ok fair play 747 can fly with three and is certified but realy honestly

I've Googled and searched the FAA's site and I've personally never heard such a story.

Gotta link?

[Kapitan]

no link just what i was told should be on there some where though im dam sure of it cause i found it on the net

[Gizzmoe]

Kapitain, please do us a favour and buy a keyboard that also has a "comma" and "period" key!

[Kapitan]

i think you find that is why im taking english classes

i dont learn grammer till period 3 which is about 3 months away so i dunno

my keyboard does have them keys but sadly there stuck up due to lack of use

[Gizzmoe]

VERY funny...

[Kapitan]

as it goes it wasnt ment to be sarcastic i realy am doing english lessons and also some of my ymbol keys are stuck due to the fact i spiltt coffe over the keyboard and the sugar has crystalised making them harder to push