okeley dokely...taking the plunge..

[CB..]

oh hell..just read thru all the threads regarding starforce and dvd drives etc.....no no no..i'm not destroying a computer for the sake of game....even if it is only a slight risk..i have ordered the game when it arrves i shall take the disks out of the box scratch them to heck (in case i get tempted lol) then throw the thing in the bin...sorry guys false alarm guesse im not going to be joining the flottilla....

[Zachstar]

When I got my 3.2 ghz ht pc with a very badass dvd burner I had to make a choice.

My hope was if it failed then I whould contact UBI thu soul

Thankfully it hasnt failed but if it did there would be hell to pay!

Give it a try If it fails then ubi will got another pissed person reporting the same horrors of starforce.

I highly doubt starforce will be in any future ubisoft game.

[NZ_Wanderer]

You "could" always just use the version (1.0) straight out of the box along with that thing I not allowed to mention, seems there are several around here that do that.. - That way the Star**** isn't installed on your system..
Then you wouldn't have to scratch your brand new disks...

[joea]

Originally Posted by CB..

oh hell..just read thru all the threads regarding starforce and dvd drives etc.....no no no..i'm not destroying a computer for the sake of game....even if it is only a slight risk..i have ordered the game when it arrves i shall take the disks out of the box scratch them to heck (in case i get tempted lol) then throw the thing in the bin...sorry guys false alarm guesse im not going to be joining the flottilla....

Don't do that CB....you are overreacting!!!! I dislike the whole SF thing but think there is a lot of hysteria around the issue. The folks who didn't have problems did not post after all. Please reconsider...you'll be missing out on a great sim and us on another talented modder.

[CB..]

cheers Guys!
well i'm sat here my reconditioned P4 3 ghz is all set up and whirring away to it-self..as yet SH3 hasn't dropped thru the letter box so i'm reading what ever i can find about this starforce issue...i have followed up on NZ's info and scanned around for the variuos bits n bobs to try that option...(out of respect for the obvious distaste for these things wont mention what and where tho in this case i believe it to be within perfect reasonto consider this option regardless of any misgivings surrounding the subject)

i dunno...the computer specs tell me the DVD rom rwriter drive runs Nero software- which doesn't make me feel any better as Nero was listed around the sites i visited as one of the set ups most affected by starforce..
no idea what to do...i could get the game tommorrow install it and find ive knackered my "new" pc within 24 hours of recieving it lol..that's not a fun idea...seems to me that the starforce softe ware isnt going to prevent the big pirating syndicates from copying and selling the game in places like China etc...it will only stop the small "car-bootsale" types..whereas if it affects only half of one percent of normal legitimate customers it will as likely as not create fewer legitimate (long term) sales than it it prevents pirated copys lol..

think what i'll do is wait a while and see if i can get as much info as possible before decide-ing what to do..it's a game i shouldn't even have to be thinking about it...if they can't create a system of security protection for software etc then they should not lumber the end user with the possible problems that software creates....as some one said a 230 quid dvd-rom drive versus a 40 quid game...no contest..

i'm a sad bunny right now..

[Gammel]

Hi CB,

don´t worry about that starforce thing too much.
I´m not a starforce fan at all, but have to say it hasn`t caused any trouble to me and my PC.
I have an up-to-date machine and i use nero + DVD emulation software.
Nero and DVD emulation soft had been installed AFTER sh3 (+starforce).
I doubt that starforce is able to to do damage to your hardware. Perhaps it will wreck your OS installation.
If you are WinXP user (I´m not) you should set a system restore point before installation of the first game that uses starforce copy protection.

[CB..]

cheers Gammel..i'm still trying to get "ofay" with windows XP..lol after windows ME it seems a bit of a pain in the ass lol..im sure i'll get used to it...now to find that system restore point just in case..

[Gammel]

Can`t tell you much about the system restore feature of XP, i use win2k.
Maybe this link is helpful:
http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/u...emrestore.mspx

[Mike 'Red Ocktober' Hense]

hey CB... you're gonna luv it...

ps there's a starforce removal util around here somewhere, but sf gets reinstalled everytime you run SH3...

it's a pain... but not a showstopper... the game is definitely worth the aggravation...

--Mike

[Vader 1]

CB
Great to see you back, I too am waiting to upgrade my rig to handle SH3 , but still play SH2 due to your great mods(reduced TDC still rocks)
There are some great talents here you'll be impressed. Well back to the sidelines to watch
Vader

[CB..]

cheers guys!! sussed the back up/restore procedure (nice one gammel!!)
(does anyone know what the heck "BigFix" is? seems to come as standard with XP and ive no idea what it's supposed to be doing lol)

Cheers Mike i'll get the SF removal tool and keep fingers crossed..

and Cheers vader!! thanks for the positive feedback on the TDC mod...if there's anything there on my site you stiil need i suggest getting it soon and backing it up on a cd or something as i'm getting some very odd vibes from my web space provider (he's a Flight sim dude who runs a server or two ) and im not sure how much longer i want to be using his service..

well tommorrow im guessing SH3 will arrive thru the post and it'll be decision time lol!! :hmm:

[Vader 1]

Have everything you every made for SH2 on disk, thanks for the heads up. good luck with the mailman
Vader

[Gammel]

no sighn of life from CB?
Maybe starforce has wrecked his machine
or he has dived deep into the game...

[CB..]

He He! nope no sign of the postman lol

[CB..]

it be here it be!!!
etc...well it installed ok (in the end there are so few long term immersive games around that it is worth the risk...) accepted the cd key first time thru (must have been lucky on that one..) came with a nice manual and the map...keyboard charts etc..
so in it went and off i go......straight into Wilm's harbour wall ..lol ended my first career in true embarrasing first trip out fashion...try again arrh this time the moons out now i can see lol!!! (will remember the route for next time tho)

so at sea heading for AN56.....

what can you say....amazing

running on version one of the game no patches to see how it goes..so far no graphical or other glitches at all..(ATI card)

PLEASE tell me the save game function works correctly...i really don't want to have to treat the lack of a working reliable save game function as a bl**dy realism option (as in SH2) when im dead im dead ..mean-time i want to be able to play and continue my career as and when time/mood permits.....now my neighbours can go back to wondering why i spend hours staring at the waves doing absolutely nothing with a contented smile on my face....gawd bless subsims..there's nothing else that do this!!

at the mo i haven't even checked to see if the dvd burer still works ...and right now i don't want to know lol