OK, so where is 1.02? - Page 2

Kapitan · 07-08-05, 11:40 AM

first of all the diving depth of the akula needs sorting thats a good place to start

Ramius · 07-08-05, 11:50 AM

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Originally Posted by Kapitain

first of all the diving depth of the akula needs sorting thats a good place to start

Not exactly what you'd call a "show stopping bug" is it though :hmm: :hmm:

Plus, each place you go to get technical data on almost ANY warship/submarine/aircraft etc etc will always show different details.

Just because the place you browsed and found some data doesnt make it the correct data.
PLUS, at the end of the day the technical data of any unit in this game is all guess work anyway. Do you really think any nation would release data about its units to make a game.... don't think so

Kapitan · 07-08-05, 11:52 AM

aha ramius can tell me why the diving planes on my akula retract ?

bradclark1 · 07-08-05, 01:30 PM

If it's just piddly stuff wrong with it why is it taking so long to bring a patch out? Jamie's reply doesn't qualify as an answer. He could just as well have said that coffee got spilt on the keyboard. I've had it off for a while and I'm not going to bother with it until the patch comes out. I'm not going to go around and say don't get it,but if I'm asked my opinion on it I'll give "my" opinion on it.

Brad

Jamie · 07-08-05, 02:19 PM

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Originally Posted by bradclark1

If it's just piddly stuff wrong with it why is it taking so long to bring a patch out?

Well, because we're trying to stay in business...

We're very different from your average game developer in that way "for better or worse" (I'm pretty sure I know which side you're on

). We develop government training applications and simulations so that we can fund what we really enjoy which is to make Naval Simulations for you guys... it's our passion, and we take great pride in it.

As I said on the Battlefront forums, the original estimate of when the patch would come out was assuming that we'd be able to focus our attention on the patches exclusively and that ended up changing rapidly as new work came in. We are still working on the patch, but the timeline has been stretched out considerably because of these other projects.

No excuses from me, just the nature of business I suppose.

It was not my intention to mislead anyone or to give false hopes of specific timelines... I'll will certainly be more careful of doing so in the future.

Driftwood · 07-08-05, 02:30 PM

I believe this thread now officially falls into the "Geez, Glad I asked........" category .

I didn't realize this thread would get this much attention. Guess I should have known better. Sorry Jamie........

Jamie · 07-08-05, 02:40 PM

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Originally Posted by lrankine

Sorry Jamie....

No big deal, you guys paid us for a product, and you deserve to know how much support that product will receive. We are not done patching DW and I wanted you all to know what it was we were working on in conjunction with the patch work.

I will always do my best to be honest with you (our customers) because where would we be without you guys? Well, we'd probably be doing 100% government work ... but where's the fun in that?!? ... Blecch! :P

Rip · 07-08-05, 02:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Jamie

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Originally Posted by lrankine

Sorry Jamie....

No big deal, you guys paid us for a product, and you deserve to know how much support that product will receive. We are not done patching DW and I wanted you all to know what it was we were working on in conjunction with the patch work.

I will always do my best to be honest with you (our customers) because where would we be without you guys? Well, we'd probably be doing 100% government work ... but where's the fun in that?!? ... Blecch! :P

That is why we love you guys. Just keep doing whatever you have to that results in the best simulations we can get. We have nowhere else to turn so the fact you guys don't leave out in the cold makes me thankful. Take your time and focus on what keeps you in business is my position.

Sea Demon · 07-08-05, 03:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Syxx_Killer

What kind of bugs is there? Maybe it's how deep this sim actually is, or how little I actually know or pay attention, but I'm not aware of any bugs. The one thing I thought was a bug was actually my own stupidity.

I can relate Syxx_Killer. I put up a thread not too long ago "demonstrating" a "bug". It was just me playing around with the database and forgetting what I did.

Re-initializing the Sonalysts DB fixed it. I apologized to Sonalysts myself and vow that will never happen again.

With that said, Sonalysts have put together one of the funnest games I've played yet. I consider it money well spent. I agree with Sonar 732. Let your friends see the demo and read the forum to decide for themselves if DW is for them. As for now, there is no "show-stopper" issues in this game that I can't be patient for a patch.

Sea Demon

Skybird · 07-08-05, 03:23 PM

I expected to place my order during July, depending on the feedback about that patch, but I already start to loose interest after several months of waiting now. Judging from what was said in this thread I think my money will stay with me even longer, then. I can understand Brad's attidue very well. Will it be like with SC, where I completely lost interest once the first stable running version with working save games (1.08) was available after ... one year? Would be nice, somehow, then I wouldn't be in need to buy it at all and spare me some 60 bucks

timmyg00 · 07-08-05, 03:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Skybird

I expected to place my order during July, depending on the feedback about that patch, but I already start to loose interest after several months of waiting now. Judging from what was said in this thread I think my money will stay with me even longer, then. I can understand Brad's attidue very well. Will it be like with SC, where I completely lost interest once the first stable running version with working save games (1.08) was available after ... one year? Would be nice, somehow, then I wouldn't be in need to buy it at all and spare me some 60 bucks

I think the input of "dissatisfied non-customers" should be taken with a fist-sized grain of salt :hmm:

TG

Skybird · 07-08-05, 04:30 PM

... together with some experience-spice from SC

Fish · 07-08-05, 04:57 PM

Skybird, you cant compare DW with SC, especially when you never see it.
But you are nitpicking as long as I know, sorry to say.
90 % of the users loves the game, and from those who play in the seawolves 100 %.
If you want live (games ) to be perfect, you will be disapointed all times.

PS: And the patch will make it even better.

Sea Demon · 07-08-05, 06:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Skybird

I expected to place my order during July, depending on the feedback about that patch, but I already start to loose interest after several months of waiting now. Judging from what was said in this thread I think my money will stay with me even longer, then. I can understand Brad's attidue very well. Will it be like with SC, where I completely lost interest once the first stable running version with working save games (1.08) was available after ... one year? Would be nice, somehow, then I wouldn't be in need to buy it at all and spare me some 60 bucks

Well, sad to see that you're not going to buy DW, Skybird. I think you're missing out on a fantastic naval simulation.

Sea Demon

bradclark1 · 07-08-05, 06:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Jamie

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Originally Posted by bradclark1

If it's just piddly stuff wrong with it why is it taking so long to bring a patch out?

Well, because we're trying to stay in business...

We're very different from your average game developer in that way "for better or worse" (I'm pretty sure I know which side you're on

). We develop government training applications and simulations so that we can fund what we really enjoy which is to make Naval Simulations for you guys... it's our passion, and we take great pride in it.

As I said on the Battlefront forums, the original estimate of when the patch would come out was assuming that we'd be able to focus our attention on the patches exclusively and that ended up changing rapidly as new work came in. We are still working on the patch, but the timeline has been stretched out considerably because of these other projects.

No excuses from me, just the nature of business I suppose.

It was not my intention to mislead anyone or to give false hopes of specific timelines... I'll will certainly be more careful of doing so in the future.

Now that I understand. If that had of been said a while ago it would have smoothed many a ruffled feather.

Brad

07-08-05, 11:40 AM	#1
Kapitan Sub Test Pilot Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: UK + Canada Posts: 7,130 Downloads: 77 Uploads: 7	first of all the diving depth of the akula needs sorting thats a good place to start __________________ DONT FORGET if you like a post to nominate it by using the blue diamond Find out about Museum Ships here: https://www.museumships.us/ Flickr for all my pictures: https://www.flickr.com/photos/131313936@N03/ Navy general board articles: https://www.navygeneralboard.com/author/aegis/

07-08-05, 11:52 AM	#3
Kapitan Sub Test Pilot Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: UK + Canada Posts: 7,130 Downloads: 77 Uploads: 7	aha ramius can tell me why the diving planes on my akula retract ? __________________ DONT FORGET if you like a post to nominate it by using the blue diamond Find out about Museum Ships here: https://www.museumships.us/ Flickr for all my pictures: https://www.flickr.com/photos/131313936@N03/ Navy general board articles: https://www.navygeneralboard.com/author/aegis/

07-08-05, 02:30 PM	#6
Driftwood Chief Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Western NC Posts: 325 Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	I believe this thread now officially falls into the "Geez, Glad I asked........" category . I didn't realize this thread would get this much attention. Guess I should have known better. Sorry Jamie........ __________________ Retired US Army Paratrooper Virtual Sub Skipper

07-08-05, 03:23 PM	#10
Skybird Soaring Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: the mental asylum named Germany Posts: 42,640 Downloads: 10 Uploads: 0	I expected to place my order during July, depending on the feedback about that patch, but I already start to loose interest after several months of waiting now. Judging from what was said in this thread I think my money will stay with me even longer, then. I can understand Brad's attidue very well. Will it be like with SC, where I completely lost interest once the first stable running version with working save games (1.08) was available after ... one year? Would be nice, somehow, then I wouldn't be in need to buy it at all and spare me some 60 bucks __________________ If you feel nuts, consult an expert.

07-08-05, 04:30 PM	#12
Skybird Soaring Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: the mental asylum named Germany Posts: 42,640 Downloads: 10 Uploads: 0	... together with some experience-spice from SC __________________ If you feel nuts, consult an expert.

07-08-05, 01:30 PM	#4
bradclark1 Ocean Warrior Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Connecticut, USA. Posts: 2,794 Downloads: 29 Uploads: 0	If it's just piddly stuff wrong with it why is it taking so long to bring a patch out? Jamie's reply doesn't qualify as an answer. He could just as well have said that coffee got spilt on the keyboard. I've had it off for a while and I'm not going to bother with it until the patch comes out. I'm not going to go around and say don't get it,but if I'm asked my opinion on it I'll give "my" opinion on it. Brad

07-08-05, 04:57 PM	#13
Fish Eternal Patrol Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: Netherlands Posts: 1,923 Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	Skybird, you cant compare DW with SC, especially when you never see it. But you are nitpicking as long as I know, sorry to say. 90 % of the users loves the game, and from those who play in the seawolves 100 %. If you want live (games ) to be perfect, you will be disapointed all times. PS: And the patch will make it even better.