SH4 and Windows 11 - Page 2

nycoroner05 · 07-19-24, 06:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hazelwood

I'm late to this discussion but seems everyone's situation is different so... here goes.

In Windows 10, around 2 years ago, started getting "An administrator has blocked this app" and SH4.exe is identified as the culprit. Presumably, there was an MS security update involved. Turning down the UAC slider in "Settings" didn't help. What did work was constructing an "elevated" launch icon for the sim. If you hadn't done this before, a bit daunting, but there's good advice on the Web. In business after that.

I could NOT get his trick to work under Win 11 so was stuck for a while. What did work was the following:

01 - In the application search Window type: "Edit group policy" (without quotes) and ENTER. (Group Policy can be found using Control Panel but this way is actually easier).

02 - In the panel that opens, choose "Windows Settings/Security Settings/Local Policies/Security Options"

03 - On right side, scroll down to find "User Account Control: Run all administrators in Admin Approval Mode Enabled"

04 - Double-click that line to get an option box with "Enable / Disable" options.

05 - Choose "Disable", close the editor and re-boot. The access problem is now solved but wait (see later).

06 - When finished gaming, be sure to re-enable that UAC setting for best protection. You'll have to go through the steps above but "Enable" that UAC setting in step 05.

My troubles still weren't over. The sim ran fine part way but upon doing my first SAVE it hung and could not be relaunched even with a reboot. Bummer. Upon first initialization, SH4 allocates a \SH4 directory with \Data as follows. This is SH4's working directory for the files included and is initialized from the one distributed in the executable's directory so you can ignore that one for now:

C:\Users"Your Name"\Documents\SH4\data\cfg

(Note - "Your Name" might not be your name but it's whatever you called your user account when installing Windows.). If you are using "Onedrive" the \Documents folder will be under \Onedrive. I don't use Onedrive so you're on your own there.

Navigate to and open "main.cfg" (in \cfg above) in a text editor. Once there, specify preferences in the "Video" section. The following worked for me with a Hi-Def monitor:

[VIDEO]
Resolution=1920,1280,60,22
DynamicShadows=Yes
FullScreen=No
Synchronized=No
TextureResolutionHigh=Yes

You might have to experiment with this and the simulation's graphics settings (once you can get in there). What appears to work is having the two matched.

I still was not out of the woods as the sim would not launch. After a lot of fooling around did the following:

01 - Deleted the entire \SH4 folder found in C:\Users"Your Name"\Documents\SH4\data\cfg.

(This is safe. Windows might obstruct you saying the file is open in another program. In that case, do a cold boot from system powered-down and you are good to go.)

02 -This forces SH4 at your next launch to rebuild that directory from the execution library (good idea to have desired video settings in the .cfg in THAT library.

Caramba! SH4 now launched. I was able to edit all options and the sim runs beautifully. "Saves" work without a glitch. I can only surmise that refreshing the "working" main.cfg fixed something.

Hope this helps someone.

Best wishes,
Cpt. J. Hazelwood

Appreciate the feedback. The game is not worth the effort.LOL I got Silent Hunter 1 to run perfectly via the dosbox. SH3 runs without any effort. Why this one is difficult is crazy.

Baxder · 02-03-25, 11:53 AM

Hey! I've built a new PC so another round of SH4 is mandatory. Launching the game off a fresh Steam install at native 4k presented no problems (besides readability!), but I can't make it through any tutorial without random CTD's. Will try the compatibility settings and report.

7800X3D/Arc B580
Yes I've done the LAA thing. No my install is not in Program Files.

Report: No go. Not sure what else to try. As the kids say these days: rip.

Update: The ctd's may have been caused by the Corruption Manager thing. Tried a clean install without it and things seem to be working fine. Working my way through installing the mods from this package I previously had in the CMS install to make sure none of them cause problems. (I was getting ctd's on the unmodded "root" install .exe with CMS, so it wasn't a mod then). The upside is plenty of reps against the tutorial cruiser. It's interesting to see how the environmental mods are affecting its behavior.

The 3000 yard bearing tool mod causes the game to crash on loading the actual game - not menus. I haven't tried this version, but it doesn't list 4k as an option, so I'm thinking it's a bust.

Bubblehead1980 · 04-23-25, 04:37 PM

New desktop I purchased mainly with SH 4 in mind as the older PC used exclusively for SH 4 for long time finally gave out. Have another desktop and laptop for professional and personal business etc.

Windows 11
x64 bit
16 gb ram
AMD Ryzen 5 8500G w/ Radeon 740M graphics 3.55 GHz
Resolution is 1920x1080 180 mhz

SH 4 installed just fine, and works just fine.

However, twice know while running TMO Update BH it just suddenly
drops to desktop, closes game out. No warning, no message.

Now, can't tell if this is a mod bug but dont believe it is or something in system.

4gig patch installed

By all accounts, PC should handle this easily and it seemed to. The graphics, play

Random CTD's are quite aggravating after being well into patrol and it seems to run very well.

The game saves are also not wanting to load at times, causing CTD.

02-03-25, 11:53 AM	#2
Baxder Seaman Join Date: Jul 2008 Posts: 40 Downloads: 53 Uploads: 0	Hey! I've built a new PC so another round of SH4 is mandatory. Launching the game off a fresh Steam install at native 4k presented no problems (besides readability!), but I can't make it through any tutorial without random CTD's. Will try the compatibility settings and report. 7800X3D/Arc B580 Yes I've done the LAA thing. No my install is not in Program Files. Report: No go. Not sure what else to try. As the kids say these days: rip. Update: The ctd's may have been caused by the Corruption Manager thing. Tried a clean install without it and things seem to be working fine. Working my way through installing the mods from this package I previously had in the CMS install to make sure none of them cause problems. (I was getting ctd's on the unmodded "root" install .exe with CMS, so it wasn't a mod then). The upside is plenty of reps against the tutorial cruiser. It's interesting to see how the environmental mods are affecting its behavior. The 3000 yard bearing tool mod causes the game to crash on loading the actual game - not menus. I haven't tried this version, but it doesn't list 4k as an option, so I'm thinking it's a bust. Last edited by Baxder; 02-04-25 at 08:46 AM.

04-23-25, 04:37 PM	#3
Bubblehead1980 Navy Seal Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: Florida USA Posts: 7,097 Downloads: 605 Uploads: 44	New desktop I purchased mainly with SH 4 in mind as the older PC used exclusively for SH 4 for long time finally gave out. Have another desktop and laptop for professional and personal business etc. Windows 11 x64 bit 16 gb ram AMD Ryzen 5 8500G w/ Radeon 740M graphics 3.55 GHz Resolution is 1920x1080 180 mhz SH 4 installed just fine, and works just fine. However, twice know while running TMO Update BH it just suddenly drops to desktop, closes game out. No warning, no message. Now, can't tell if this is a mod bug but dont believe it is or something in system. 4gig patch installed By all accounts, PC should handle this easily and it seemed to. The graphics, play Random CTD's are quite aggravating after being well into patrol and it seems to run very well. The game saves are also not wanting to load at times, causing CTD.