Plane hijacking... - Page 2

Jimbuna · 05-24-21, 02:13 PM

^ Yes, I think many of us could write that in advance of it being published

Russia calls Western reaction "shocking" and "hypocritical"

MaDef · 05-24-21, 11:00 AM

I'm not siding with either side in this, as far as I can tell this is an internal matter between the Belarus government and a Belarus citizen. If and when Belarus starts diverting flights and taking foreign nationals into custody, then we can revisit the issue.

Skybird · 05-24-21, 01:28 PM

"An internal matter between the Belarus government and a Belarus citizen."

The relation is that between criminal scumbags and murderous gangsters, and their victims they think of as their property.

Skybird · 05-24-21, 10:55 AM

It seems that Russia was involved, too. As some commentators in Germany point out, NATO officials should really be worried about what this hijacking means for the credibility of NATO's deterrance in the eyes of its foes. There were citizens from many NATO countries aboard. Do we care for protecting our citizens, or do we let them off by being too scared to play tough and protecting them?

I think diplomatic relations should be cancelled with Belarus, and the borders closed indefinetly, and all mutual landing rights and overflight agreements should be cancelled as well. An iron curtain. I m ean we also maintian no diplomatic relations with the Mafia or Camorra, and sign no treaties with them and give them no legal recognition, right? Wetsenr business peope, thinkling they miust want to do business with Belarus, shoud, be put under sanctiosnb,a nd toruists should be ifnormed they trrale their at their ver yown risk and can epxect no support whatever if they think they must do private travels by illegal means there.

Honestly said I more and mroe think we shoudk act the same way with Russia, and of cours echina. Stop dealing with them, in all regards.

The german foreign diplomatic course dominating in the EU, "Wandel durch Handel" (Change by trade) has collapsed completely in past months and years. In every single case where the Germans tried it. It failedl failed, failed every single time. Not one evil regime ever changed for the better due to German money making - and money giving - policies (or American pendant policies, or any other economic trade brings change policies by anyone). It never worked, it never worked, it never worked. It only makes the bad boys badder, more daring, and stronger. Russia. China. Iran being the best examples. Also, the Palestinain arabs, Hamas, Hezbollah.

The West has to give up a good amount of its pacifistic illusions that only illustrate one thing: Western reality denial and stupidity.

05-24-21, 02:13 PM	#1
Jimbuna Chief of the Boat Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: 250 metres below the surface Posts: 190,473 Downloads: 63 Uploads: 13	^ Yes, I think many of us could write that in advance of it being published Russia calls Western reaction "shocking" and "hypocritical" __________________ Wise men speak because they have something to say; Fools because they have to say something. Oh my God, not again!!

05-24-21, 01:28 PM	#3
Skybird Soaring Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: the mental asylum named Germany Posts: 42,604 Downloads: 10 Uploads: 0	"An internal matter between the Belarus government and a Belarus citizen." The relation is that between criminal scumbags and murderous gangsters, and their victims they think of as their property. __________________ If you feel nuts, consult an expert.

05-24-21, 10:55 AM	#4
Skybird Soaring Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: the mental asylum named Germany Posts: 42,604 Downloads: 10 Uploads: 0	It seems that Russia was involved, too. As some commentators in Germany point out, NATO officials should really be worried about what this hijacking means for the credibility of NATO's deterrance in the eyes of its foes. There were citizens from many NATO countries aboard. Do we care for protecting our citizens, or do we let them off by being too scared to play tough and protecting them? I think diplomatic relations should be cancelled with Belarus, and the borders closed indefinetly, and all mutual landing rights and overflight agreements should be cancelled as well. An iron curtain. I m ean we also maintian no diplomatic relations with the Mafia or Camorra, and sign no treaties with them and give them no legal recognition, right? Wetsenr business peope, thinkling they miust want to do business with Belarus, shoud, be put under sanctiosnb,a nd toruists should be ifnormed they trrale their at their ver yown risk and can epxect no support whatever if they think they must do private travels by illegal means there. Honestly said I more and mroe think we shoudk act the same way with Russia, and of cours echina. Stop dealing with them, in all regards. The german foreign diplomatic course dominating in the EU, "Wandel durch Handel" (Change by trade) has collapsed completely in past months and years. In every single case where the Germans tried it. It failedl failed, failed every single time. Not one evil regime ever changed for the better due to German money making - and money giving - policies (or American pendant policies, or any other economic trade brings change policies by anyone). It never worked, it never worked, it never worked. It only makes the bad boys badder, more daring, and stronger. Russia. China. Iran being the best examples. Also, the Palestinain arabs, Hamas, Hezbollah. The West has to give up a good amount of its pacifistic illusions that only illustrate one thing: Western reality denial and stupidity. __________________ If you feel nuts, consult an expert. Last edited by Skybird; 05-24-21 at 11:04 AM.

05-24-21, 11:00 AM	#2
MaDef Ace of the Deep Join Date: Oct 2007 Posts: 1,194 Downloads: 5 Uploads: 0	I'm not siding with either side in this, as far as I can tell this is an internal matter between the Belarus government and a Belarus citizen. If and when Belarus starts diverting flights and taking foreign nationals into custody, then we can revisit the issue.